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Since you have edited a number of these articles in the past, whats your opinion on adding the infobox for "former countries" to ethnic, tribal and village organizations in the late prehistoric, protohistoric and early historic Florida and southeastern region? Another editor has begun adding the infobox (which I disagree with) to a number of these articles, sometimes removing and replacing other infoboxes in the process. ( see Tacatacuru revision history, Uzita (Florida), Pohoy , Tocobaga) The editor, User:Mangokeylime, seems to have a thing for infoboxes. Per our recent interactions (User:Mangokeylime#Mound Builders box and Talk:Mississippian culture#Mound Builders navbox) I'd rather have some neutral parties knowledgeable of the subjects to weigh in with their opinions rather than me jumping in unilaterally on this issue. Thanks, and kind regards, Heiro 03:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree that the infox is inappropriate and plainly inaccurate. Trying to formulate a response. I don't understand the unwillingness to acknowledge there is an entire academic system of classifications and definitions that are well established - trying to equate those ancient peoples as "countries" is so off base.Parkwells (talk) 04:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've added discussion of why the "nations infobox" (for simplicity's sake) was removed to the Talk pages of articles about the Uzita, Pohoy, and Tocobaga, as well as to Mangokeylime's Talk page, encouraging more learning about the academic conventions and classifications related to the archeological and historical cultures of indigenous peoples. So now I realize I have a question, after having added "ethnic group" infoboxes to many articles about historic Native American tribes. Are these infoboxes also used for the articles on people classified as chiefdoms, such as the three under discussion above? Can't remember. Such groups were documented in the historic period, and articles sometimes note when they disappeared from the historic record.Parkwells (talk) 16:46, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've always seen them used here for tribal groups. I tend to stick to mostly NA stuff, generally the prehistoric stuff but it sometimes bleeds into the historic with groups like the Taensa which was at least a simple chiefdom (defined as such in one of my sources), and the Natchez who were a paramount chiefdom (pretty sure I saw a source for that recently as well). I've never seen one that fits better than the ethnic box and it's used for both. It would probably be appropriate to add them to any of those articles if they do not already have them, if that's what your asking. As per Mangokeylime, he just seems to really really like adding infoboxes (see the quote he added to his userpage after I started these discussions [1]) to articles. That seems to be the vast majority of his recent edits. And discussions with him about it seem to brickwall pretty fast, see User:Mangokeylime#Mound Builders box, lol. After that I decided to give up discussing (arguing? talking around it endlessly while feeling like you are getting nowhere?) it with him one on one and enlist other neutral opinions and get a consensus. And thanks re the props for Taensa. I hadn't meant to be that extensive but sorta got sucked in. Which sucked me into sorting out the Plaquemine culture out a bit, although that one could still use an extensive rewrite and addition of materials. Unfortunately finding material on it is difficult. It's not as well known as Mississippian and most of the material is scattered throughout individual papers and unpublished thesis', etc. As far as I know there is only one book dedicated to the subject, they say so in the introduction, haha (and the main editor and archaeologist happens to live in the same town as me but I've never ran into him. Would love to sit and discuss it with him some time, but alas). And it wasn't published until a few years ago. Maybe I'll get serious about it one day. Heiro 17:45, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, re the "nation state" or "state" argument in general in NA archaeo and history. Cahokia, the largest site north of Mexico, huge population, extensive influence over the eastern part of the continent, etc. And it's still a major issue with some professionals wanting to define it as a "state" and others disagreeing that it had reached that level of political structuring. There is no way the professionals would describe a few tiny villages in coastal Florida as a "state' or "country" as we use the term in English. Heiro 17:50, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I may have finally reached the limits of what I can find for this one (Taensa), lol. Cheers, Heiro 19:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great work!Parkwells (talk) 15:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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In a recent edit to this article, you mentioned Proctor(aka Procter)... I know who he is, and you know who he is, but this is the first time Proctor/Procter gets mentioned in the Graves article...so there's no context. Shearonink (talk) 02:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sharp eyes Shearonink! I had picked up his name from the article on the Raisin River Massacre, decided to add it for context, and forgot to check the whole thing. Good to hear from you and I hope all is well. Parkwells (talk) 14:17, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the invitation. I will definitely comment, as I can see many of the respondents do not have necessary knowledge about the issue. Hope to get to it this afternoon.Parkwells (talk) 14:55, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi again. I think you could perhaps create a separate article about the Franklin riot. Would you be interested in creating an article about this too please? If there were casualties, they could be added to Template:Lynching in the United States.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you please look over the draft available for the article on Caillou Pettis and see if it is good to submit for actual publication? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done; not ready for prime time.Parkwells (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Thanks for ironing out my language there. I started Draft:YouTuber to collaborate on an article about this subgroup, so if you are interested in the subject, I'd welcome your contributions to this draft as well. Regards SoWhy 07:08, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but that's not really my field. Someone reverted my changes without explanation, so you may want to take up the issues with them at the article.Parkwells (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please clarify: "The strikers resisted being boxed in and fired on two of the pickets, injuring both." What is a "picket"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:8580:2E45:6D36:863D:270:604F (talk) 11:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The term usually refers to people guarding a group - especially of soldiers, or other people in a meeting.Parkwells (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just wondering if you've read the JSTOR article about the 1967 Nashville riot yet. There are many articles on Newspapers.com. Please reply here and ping me when you do. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:08, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've started reading that, but am in the middle of my own large project. I am supporting the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, AL, by adding content about lynchings in each of the five counties in each state with the highest # of lynchings, per Lynching in America (2017 supplement, 3rd edition) by the Equal Justice Initiative. I am going to finish that first.Parkwells (talk) 14:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. By the way, if you are able to retrieve the names of all the lynching victims in Middle Tennessee from them, I could try to create more articles about specific lynchings there.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The EJI published a Supplement: Lynching by County (this can be found online), which I'm using. It only identifies totals. So I have also conducted Google searches of lynchings by named county, and finding other documentation of names and incidents. In some cases, contemporary newspaper accounts are online, but scholarly sources are better. I have not listed all of the victims by name in these articles, because in the worst states, the list is much too long. There are many other sources which you will find by searching. Especially since the publication of the EJI first report in 2015, some states or other jurisdictions, and major newspapers in those states have published their own reports by name. Here is one that documented lynchings of the 1940s: http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai3/segregation/text2/lynchingcrime.pdf. This includes: June 22, 1940: At Brownsville, Haywood County, Tennessee. Elbert Williams, Negro. Charge, attempting to qualify to vote - “Interest in Negro affairs.” Murdered and body thrown into the Hatchie River."Parkwells (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wish they would add the names on their website. In Middle Tennessee, I have created a few: Lynching of David Jones, Lynching of Amos Miller, Lynching of Ephraim Grizzard, Lynching of Samuel Smith. Someone else created Lynching of Samuel Bierfield a while back. But there must be more--if we know the names, I can retrieve more RS on Newspapers.com to create new articles.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You may pick up names by reading the full EJI report, which sometimes goes into details. The TN Encyclopedia online has a lengthy article on lynchings, and there are a variety of other sources. It would be better not to rely only on newspapers. Also, the website for the National Memorial for Peace and Justice may list the names. The memorial is made up of structural elements on which are engraved the names of victims by county, when known- a separate hanging steel piece for each county.Parkwells (talk) 16:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

EJI reported a total of five lynchings in Williamson Co, TN, so you could search by county. That's where Samuel SMith was from.Parkwells (talk) 18:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've created Lynching of Jo Reed--the suspension bridge was probably the same as the one used for the Lynching of David Jones, but we would need an RS.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I meant the same bridge was Grizzard. But we don't know for sure.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of this please?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've added more content and documentation about the lynching, as well as adding the lynching to the Crenshaw County page. It does not need to be in the Lead. Parkwells (talk) 14:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not, but "the friendliest city in the South" in the lede is a bit odd. They are friendly until they lynch us--great!Zigzig20s (talk) 15:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]