User talk:ProhibitOnions
Talk February 2012
[edit]Proposal to split Park51 to Ground Zero controversy
[edit]Hi. You're receiving this message because you recently edited Park51. Ed Poor has proposing splitting that off part of that article to create Ground Zero controversy. We're discussing it on the talk page here and would appreciate your feedback. Raul654 (talk) 23:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
MSU Interview
[edit]Dear ProhibitOnions,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
- Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at [email protected] (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at [email protected]. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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Paul Young, the missing talk page
[edit]Now that the article on Paul Young the singer (and guitarist) has been moved to Paul Young, wouldn't it be a good idea to move Talk:Paul Young (singer and guitarist) to Talk:Paul Young? I tried doing it myself, but this is an admin-only thing, it seems. Regards, Several Pending (talk) 15:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- Whoops! My bad - thanks for pointing that out. It's fixed now. Regards, ProhibitOnions (T) 16:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
A request to enjoin discussion at Talk:McKinsey & Company
[edit]Hi there! I hope this doesn't annoy you, but I'd like your input. As part of his request for mentorship, I've been interviewing User:King4057, a new user who self-identifies as a paid editor. We have been discussing issues of COI and neutrality and McKinsey & Company came up. The user seems to think that edits you made on talk and to pagespace represent a bias one way or the other. I ask, because the user is relatively new and inexperienced, you forgive his characterization of you and your edits. You are under no obligation to honor that request. If you'd like to provide your input, I'd very much like to understand what was happening and what your thinking was. Here's a link to the discussion. BusterD (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary
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Boeing 737 Max or "Boeing 737 MAX?"
[edit]You seem to be convinced that the aforementioned article should not have the "MAX" in all-caps. Please explain your view on this at the 737 MAX talk page. Thanks, Compdude123 16:17, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Others have replied to your comments. There seems to be a consensus to have the "MAX" be in all-caps, but I'd like to see you reply to my comments and those of other users. Thanks, Compdude123 02:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
You're an admin; could you please act like one? Most admins I've seen on this Wikipedia do not engage in edit warring, or going against consensus. Please discuss this on the talk page, I really don't see a need to make a big deal over just one word. —Compdude123 22:49, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Just to add, two other admins have reverted your move of this article. And plus there is a clear consensus on the talk page to have the MAX capitalized. —Compdude123 22:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Please refrain from personal attacks. The "consensus" you refer to is based on reasoning such as "I think most people would", "People seem to abide by the MOS way too much", and an appeal to the "official" use ("He told me the Boeing official name is MAX, not Max"), none of which holds any water. ProhibitOnions (T) 06:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for getting mad at you like that. I was just frustrated that we were still having this same stupid argument in the first place. Can we just settle this and move on, please? Comment on the talk page. Thanks, Compdude123 15:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Can you please explain to me how a statement such as "People seem to abide by the MOS way too much" is not a good argument? It's true; I think people sometimes treat the MOS like it's a law that must be followed all the time. For pity's sake; the MOS is just a guideline, and it should be treated with common sense! —Compdude123 18:09, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Please refrain from personal attacks. The "consensus" you refer to is based on reasoning such as "I think most people would", "People seem to abide by the MOS way too much", and an appeal to the "official" use ("He told me the Boeing official name is MAX, not Max"), none of which holds any water. ProhibitOnions (T) 06:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Used your photo in my quiz blog
[edit]Hi ProhibitOnions, just thought of dropping by and saying a word of thanks for uploading the photo of the site with a marking to the exact place where Pope Jon Paul II was fired upon. I have used the photo for framing a question in my quiz blog. Thanks again. Shovon (talk) 09:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Mini Vote
[edit]Hey, I have proposed a vote for something to be agreed on once and for all regarding the Mini issues; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mini_%28marque%29#Vote Yellowxander (talk) 12:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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Category:Number ones compilation albums
[edit]Category:Number ones compilation albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- In case you are not watching it at its new name Category:Compilation albums of number-one songs, it has been nominated again: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 5#Category:Compilation albums of number-one songs. – Fayenatic London 14:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Query: damage to articles
[edit]Hi - as you seem to know your way around this site, can I ask for some advice - having spent yesterday struggling to deal with another editor who repeatedly filled the article on the Olympics Opening Ceremony with inappropriate capitalisation and titles contrary to WP guidelines, I see he's spent today doing the same to another article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_sovereignty_over_Hong_Kong). I don't want to get dragged into another edit competition with him - how best to address (if at all), please? IanB2 (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- The first step is usually to take it to the talk page, though you should go to that user's talk page as well - if someone's violating Wikipedia policies, you should point this out (though remember to assume good faith); quite often, people don't know they're doing something wrong (especially if new to WP), or can be persuaded to stop. If the user violates the three-revert-rule (ie, changes something back to a preferred version more than three times in 24 hours), you should report this on the 3RR notice board - an admin will then assess the situation and usually block that user for a cooling-off period, provided that you have first tried contacting the user. (Note that although I'm an admin, I can't block someone if I've been editing the article in question.) If you're talking about User:Laggan Boy, he has already been warned; but the hope of Wikipedia is that someone willing to make this many edits will be encouraged to go the extra distance to make them constructive. You should also note that 3RR applies to all editors who revert too often, regardless of the merit of their edits (unless it's clear vandalism, a violation of WP:BLP, etc.). Hope this helps. Good luck - ProhibitOnions (T) 20:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]Where was the discussion on your recent ITN posting regarding the papacy? --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:25, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- There was none. WP was late to add this, or indeed anything else to ITN in the last two days. I was being bold. ProhibitOnions (T) 22:34, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Too bold. All postings must have consensus at WP:ITN/C before being posted. This is not optional. Because it was undiscussed, I've removed it. You may want to propose it on the candidates page, or weigh in on a similar nomination that is already ongoing. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:38, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Weak. The event, announced nearly a month in advance, happened four hours ago, and we're still discussing whether to post it. Meanwhile, our top story is two days old. Hence, BOLD. ProhibitOnions (T) 22:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Bongwarrior. ITN absolutely requires consensus at ITN/C, where this story is already under discussion. This is not an optional step which can be ignored if an individual admin feels like it. If you were concerned about a few hours delay (which is normal for ITN), you could have nominated it this morning. Besides, there's no guarantee it will be supported. Modest Genius talk 23:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Huh? But this was nominated hours before you posted it and there clearly was and is consensus against posting it. There's being bold and there's being rogue. -- tariqabjotu 00:01, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- We ran an ITN item about the resignation when the announcement was made. As Tariqabjotu noted, there is clear consensus against running such an item again. Did you even check WP:ITN/C before posting it? —David Levy 03:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- I see that you've resumed editing. I await your response. —David Levy 15:35, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. How about posting some news on ITN that's less than four days old? Seems to me the procedure is a problem: by putting everything up to an often interminable discussion, we are lowering the quality and timeliness of the Main Page. I stand by my earlier BOLD. ProhibitOnions (T) 16:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- You didn't answer my question (regarding whether you checked WP:ITN/C). Regardless, your response is rather disheartening. You ignored consensus (at best) or unilaterally overruled it (at worst). You did so by editing a fully protected page, which was an abuse of the trust placed in you by the community. As Tariqabjotu noted, this was a rogue action, not a "bold" one.
- If you find fault with ITN's procedures, you're welcome to propose that they be changed. You aren't welcome to deem the community wrong and post a rejected ITN item because you feel like it.
- I couldn't remember why I had your talk page watchlisted, so I checked the archives. It turns out that I contacted you in 2006 regarding an inappropriate ITN item that you took it upon yourself to post ("What rules?"). More than six years later, it seems that you still regard this as an administrative entitlement.
- No one has requested an apology, but I'd hoped for an assurance that this won't happen again (if only because you recognize the community's disapproval, your opinion thereof notwithstanding). Instead, you say that you "stand by" your action, which leads me to believe that you might repeat it in the future. Is my understanding accurate? —David Levy 20:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Surname. I've added the source to the article. It isn't a well known fact that she had taken his last name in the first place, and was only made public when the divorce papers were filed. — Status (talk · contribs) 03:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Belated thanks! -ProhibitOnions (T) 15:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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Western Electric on SS Easton
[edit]appears to have been added in error some time ago. Requires correction.69.156.48.176 (talk) 17:05, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not a mistake. Read the article - it was a disaster for the company. Regards, - ProhibitOnions (T) 20:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm humbled! Was focused on the wartime aspect and skimmed the details of the disaster. Shaping up as a good acticle, needs a nomination. Cheers! 69.156.48.176 (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- No need to be humbled - the article needs to bring out this aspect more (the disaster was for Western Electric a bit like, say, 9/11 was for Cantor Fitzgerald). At the moment, as you point out, there are only a couple of easily missed sentences in an otherwise very good article. That ought to be improved, and the article should indeed be nominated. -ProhibitOnions (T) 02:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Newcastle
[edit]Please do not move Newcastle railway station to Newcastle Central Station again. It has been attempted before, several times, and was reverted each time. There has been no discussion on the matter since 2011, so any move must be preceded by a fresh WP:RM discussion which concludes with consensus to move. Please see also WP:NCUKSTATIONS. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- Precisely my point. There has been no discussion on this in essentially seven years, and there's no need to adhere to a truce from way back when there were several difficult users insisting on various homebrew names for the station. The discussion shows the name "Newcastle Central Station" is well attributed. -ProhibitOnions (T) 16:49, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- It is four years, not seven, since the last discussion. It is immaterial that the discussions took place some time ago: the fact that there has been discussion indicates that a page move is controversial, and per WP:MOVE#Before moving a page, WP:RM#CM should be followed. "Newcastle railway station" is no more a "homebrew name" than "Newcastle Central Station" is. The reason for not naming the article "Newcastle Central Station" is that it goes against WP:NCUKSTATIONS. The relevant rows of the table are:
Rail service Name Example "mainline" rail (National Rail) x railway station Swindon railway station Tyne and Wear Metro x Metro station Pelaw Metro station Any two or more of the above x station London Bridge station
- The article covers the main line station only, the T&W Metro station being covered elsewhere, so the "Any two or more of the above" row does not apply and the applicable row is that beginning '"mainline" rail (National Rail)'. The "x" we replace with the verifiable official name of the station, which as given on its signage and on websites such as National Rail Enquiries, is "Newcastle". Therefore the article should be named Newcastle railway station, which is where it presently is. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:37, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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Original titles
[edit]Please stop removing the original titles en masse. I will now revert everything back. Btw your edit summaries seem a bit opinionated: [1]. [2]. (And no, it's not "merely written that way on the cover", it is written this way officially, you can check on Oricon etc.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:36, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Here: [3]. As you can see, different albums are capitalized differently. Could you please not remove the official titles? --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:45, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
And here: [4]. Just look: "love the world", "VOICE", "Spring of Life". I have no idea what their reasons are, but they chose to write the titles this way and they are consistently written this way in Japanese reliable sources. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:58, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- I haven't removed any original titles. But simply because something is written in capital letters on an album cover or in a logo doesn't mean it's always written that way. To describe something as "stylized" that way is to misunderstand what that means. Furthermore, Wikipedia does not use non-standard capitalization. See the following:
- MOS:ALLCAPS: "Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. In English, capitalization is primarily needed for proper names, acronyms, or for the first word of a sentence."
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- -ProhibitOnions (T) 03:30, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- They are original titles. They are always written like this (in Japanese), not just on the covers. --Moscow Connection (talk) 21:51, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Try to find even one example where it is spelled differently (in Japanese): [5]. The Japanese media are very serious about things like this. It is the official title.
And I'm not saying anything about writing it like this in the prose part. I'm just saying that the original titles must be mentioned in the article.
What word would you suggest to use instead of "stylized"? "Written"? --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:02, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, I am newer to Wikipedia, and have noticed the few edits i have made on what seems to be a small page, get edited and then edits were blocked for vandalism. I am not even sure if I am connecting to you directly the correct way. I wanted to get some feedback to see what the issues have been with my edits, and what I did that was qualified as vandalism as I am not sure I want to keep attempting to contribute to articles. So I am reaching out to see if you can give me some guidance and direction. Thank you! GlitterGirl83 (talk) 23:31, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#JT_Foxx I pretty much suggested deletion, but ....
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- The article is a stub - wouldn't it be better to work on it? But if you wish, I've removed the protection. - ProhibitOnions (T) 05:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
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- The article is a stub - wouldn't it be better to work on it? But if you wish, I've removed the protection. - ProhibitOnions (T) 05:25, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
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- This edit inappropriately uses a legal document as a primary source in a biography, which is expressly and strictly prohibited by policy:
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The use of primary sources in BLPs is limited only to where it can augment something discussed in a reliable secondary source. - This edit inappropriately uses social media posts such as Instagram, Meetup and a claimed high school alumni listing for sourcing; none of these are acceptable reliable secondary sources for statements about a living person. You even got real close to realizing this when you wrote in the edit summary,
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- Mea culpa - I'd sat down to try to find some sources for some of these things when I got whisked away on account of a family medical emergency. I shouldn't have saved what I had done - those links were just the starting point for my own research (e.g. Foxx mentioned going to Loyola High School in one of his speeches - I'd just have to listen to enough of it to find it).
- Given all the surprising assertions (Steve Wozniak called him the closest thing to Steve Jobs he'd ever met - really?), you might expect there'd be plenty of info about this individual out there. Just being a radio talk show host in several major markets should be enough by itself to establish notability and provide plenty of details - but lo and behold, almost all mentions of the show are from Foxx's own websites (giving the impression of a short-lived infomercial, not a syndicated program). Regards - ProhibitOnions (T) 20:17, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I understand where you're coming from and it would seem like there would be a lot more out there about this guy because his whole schtick seems dubious at best, but... I guess no other reliable source besides the one DW reporter has really taken a look at what's going on here, and until then... we'll just have to wait for the reliable sources to hopefully lead the way. I appreciate your thoughtful response. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 04:50, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]I'm a bit surprised that you added the tag with no explanation. Template:POV is specific about this, saying ". Please also explain on the article's talk page why you are adding this tag, identifying specific issues that are actionable within Wikipedia's content policies." I've removed it. Doug Weller talk 12:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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Took care of one of the items on your "to do" list. BTW, did you notice there's a Polish article for Kolej Jabłonowska? All you have to do is copy the Google translation. Pkeets (talk) 05:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi @ProhibitOnions, I see you put redirect from Chalky teeth to Molar Incisor Hypomineralisation in 2020. Sensible indeed at the time. But now there is a dedicated Chalky Teeth page. Any concerns about the redirect being removed now? You'll see I've made a comment under Talk on the redirect page: Talk:Chalky teeth
Hope this all okay, I'm a newbie on Wikipedia but keen to learn. D3Gospel 1 (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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