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Hello. Since you look proficient in the subject, do you think that Tom Meade and/or the Thomassima series of one-off, Ferrari-based cars created by him meet the requirements of notability and therefore may deserve a page on Wikipedia? Khruner (talk) 09:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Tom Meade definitely meets notability criteria. Here are some sources that could be used for the foundations of a biographical article:

• https://journal.classiccars.com/2017/12/16/meade-modena-cars-sculptures-personal-expression/
• https://www.topgear.com/car-news/concept/close-one-worlds-rarest-coach-built-ferraris
• https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a6441/ferrari-thomassima/
• http://www.thomassima.com/
• https://mycarquest.com/2016/05/tom-meade-americano-italia.html
• https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/1960-ferrari-250-gt-nembo-spyder-4554166-details.aspx
• Sonnery, Marc (1998-04-25). "The Nembo Ferraris - Part I". Ferrari Market Letter. 23 (9): 1–5. (I have a copy of this and can contribute info from it)
• 60 Minutes segment on Tom Meade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazEBNIV7K8 (info about date of original airing for citation purposes here: https://emcpb.blogspot.com/2016/04/tom-meade-and-thomassima-on-60-minutes.html)

I think finding enough reliable sources for a non-stub article about the Thomissima cars themselves will be a challenge, so my instinct would be to confine that to a section within a Tom Meade article. Most of the writing I have seen about those cars seems to be in the biographical context of Mr. Meade's life, with not a whole lot of detail about the construction, use and history of the vehicles themselves. Or at least not enough to not be redundant with a section in a bio of Meade. I'm happy to help contribute to a Tom Meade article/draft if that's something you're thinking of starting. You might also want to look at the Neri and Bonacini article I created, which has some mention of Mr. Meade in the section about the Nembo Ferraris. Prova MO (talk) 17:41, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed you did a fine work on Neri & Bonacini; Meade seems to have had a special relationship with them and with Fantuzzi too. I've discovered Meade by mere chance, browsing the March issue of Octane magazine where his Thomassima III is featured. I was fascinated enough to find and read many of the links you provided above, and came to the conclusion that there is enough material for an article about him (providing that he is notable enough, hence my original question). I believe that most of his biography could easily be covered with this, opportunely skimmed and integrated with the original Road & Track article, the "Americano in Italia" link, and the Octane article. About the cars I think you're right, a section within his article should be enough; unfortunately I tried to find free images of his three main creations with no avail. Khruner (talk) 20:41, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another one- https://web.archive.org/web/20140831103306/https://magazine.ferrari.com/blog/2014/08/italian-heart-american-blood/ Please keep me updated if you decide to proceed on this. Prova MO (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey there. I was wondering if you can spare some sources for Carrozzeria Sports Cars which IMO is currently in an unworthy state. There is a book on the subject (Jack Koobs De Hartog & Marc De Rijck, Drogo: official coachbuilder of the Scuderia Ferrari) but apparently it's a costly, limited edition work, so most likely unavailable. Khruner (talk) 19:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I agree that that article needs some work, thanks for the heads up. I have a few sources that mention Drogo cars but really little detail about the carrozzeria or Piero himself. IIRC even the articles I read about the "Breadvan" are rather vague on this matter. I have a copy of the book you mentioned on the way to me and should be able to contribute something once it arrives. My experience with books in this field is that stuff is hardly ever reprinted so I tend to jump on buying them as long as copies are still available. Prices get absolutely crazy after a few years, and often you only find out how informative a book is after you buy it. I've only been able to contribute as much about vintage Ferrari and Lamborghini because I have access to an extensive library on the topic including lots of out of print stuff- many of which I couldn't afford except for my father purchasing them long ago. It's quite frustrating but also one of my main motivators for wiki contributions. I like sharing knowledge about these cars that's mostly locked up in the dusty shelves of car book collectors. So hopefully you'll see more from me on Drogo/Czz. Sports Cars soon, free time permitting. Prova MO (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I really like the Breadvan, intriguing design and backstory. Also because of it I believe that Drogo and/or his carrozzeria deserve to be known more. I wasn't aware of this issue on books about the topic, though (I usually deal with completely unrelated subjects here on Wiki). Khruner (talk) 20:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just an update, I have been reading through the De Hartog/De Rijck book about Drogo. It seems very well researched and has a lot of info to incorporate into various articles. I hope to start contributing information from it shortly. Prova MO (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've just read your excellent work on Piero Drogo and I wanted to thank you for that. Like many others, I guess, I was baffled in discovering that he wasn't an automobile designer at all! Khruner (talk) 07:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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