User talk:Rjmnijman

Your edit to Avery Dennison has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for information on how to contribute your work appropriately. For legal reasons, Wikipedia strictly cannot host copyrighted text or images from print media or digital platforms without an appropriate and verifiable license. Contributions infringing on copyright will be removed. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. ⸺RandomStaplers 23:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, I've read your second reply as well. Thanks for safeguarding the page from potential copyright issues. However, I was asked to make these alterations and additions on account of the outdated and/or incomplete information on this Wiki page and have permission to use the highlighted source material. Can you tell me how I can provide the required proof that it is okay to use the source material? Rjmnijman (talk) 09:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, please note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style, as you did in Avery Dennison, disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You put an external link in the lead. That is a big no, according to the manual of style. I think you should edit in the sandbox for a while before you start making changes. ⸺RandomStaplers 23:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thanks so much for you reply and your suggestion. I will try to work in sandbox first before offering the desired edits to the page. Can I work in a sandbox of this particular page to test of the edits are acceptable, or is it a different environment altogether? Rjmnijman (talk) 09:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no sandbox on the page itself. You have to copy from that page to *your* sandbox. And to make sure you don't accidentally commit anymore copyright violations, make sure you follow this page.

I had to spend quite a while fixing my old pages after figuring that out, so you're not alone here.⸺Random(s)taplers 18:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks! I've placed the desired alterations in a sandbox environment as a mirror, [1] and will look into the appropriate permissions (as I am allowed to used the supposed copyright protected bits). What are the appropriate channels to offer the sandbox version as a desired, updated new version of the page it is mirroring? Rjmnijman (talk) 08:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Randomstaplers, would it be possible for you to have a look at the sandbox @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rjmnijman/sandbox? Thanks very much in advance! Rjmnijman (talk) 08:18, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From a look at your sandbox,

• It's pretty clear you did not follow the link I sent you.
• And you appear to have committed another copyvio from one look at the page history.

I suggest you insert {{Db-u1}} at the top of your sandbox, wait for it to be deleted, and try again with your sandbox changes. And make sure to read the links I send you, starting from A note such as.

It's the sandbox, so no harm done. But please read things thoroughly, particularly with regards to copyright, okay? Randomsalt-unconfirmed (talk) 03:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did check the links, the page had notations at the beginning and the end; it said "content copied from 1 on 30 July 2024 for purposes of testing and proposing changes to original page." so I don't understand why the text would be changed back?

Also i have permission from the source as I was asked to propose these changes to their original page; how and where can i show that it's not a copyvio but rather a permitted use of text? Rjmnijman (talk) 12:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Unless Avery has released the content under Creative Commons or some other liberal license, we can't accept it. Period. Even if you have permission, you gotta understand that Wikipedia itself is licensed under Creative Commons, and our readers expect it to be that way.⸺(Random)staplers 01:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aren't there other articles you are interested in? If you have a direct interest in Avery, you're employed there, you're paid to contribute, you have stock... you must declare it; WP:COI, or at least you must through the edit request process in the talk page, placing {{subst:ECOI}} to let others make sure you're not editing outside WP:NPOV.⸺(Random)staplers 20:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning. Yes, I have a direct interest, I was asked to adjust outdated information and add relevant new information. I have been transparant about that throughout, and have previously added a disclosure on my user page. I was assigned a Wiki mentor when I started this account who had let me know that this remark on my user page was needed (and sufficient) for full disclosure. *Please let me know if there is anything else I can (or should) do*. All previously made additions are objective facts with external references. There are a few more to come. For instance, the Avery Dennison Wiki page speaks, under the heading Divisions, speaks about the company's operations being organized into three business units. That is no longer factually accurate, as the company solutions and businesses are categorized into two segments: Materials Group and Solutions Group. I will seek to adjust that as well, in accordance with all the rules of course. Rjmnijman (talk) 06:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]