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Hi wageslave. I'm just letting you know that due to lack of improvements on the Wii technical problems article, I am beginning formal Article for Deletion procedures. This will give you about 5 days to improve the content of the article while the editors debate on its merits. If a consensus is reached to delete the page after that time, the delete will be carried out and made permanent. --Jbanes 17:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I noticed you changed all Live to LIVE, because "it is the correct name." Note that Wikipedia has its own set of guidelines, like Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks), that clearly indicates Capitalize trademarks, as with proper names. and that Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment: avoid: REALTOR®, instead, use: Realtor In other words, although the trademark is "Xbox LIVE", Wikipedia uses "Xbox Live" for consistence. Thanks for understanding. -- ReyBrujo 03:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The same guideline has a subsection, here, which explains that Lowercased trademarks beginning with a one-letter, separable prefix do not need to be capitalized if the second letter is capitalized, but should otherwise follow normal capitalization rules: avoid: EBay is where he bought his IPod. instead, use: eBay is where he bought his iPod. As you can see, the guideline states that something like LIVE should be modified to Live, but something like eBay should not be modified to EBay, and while you could change that to Ebay, it is not necessary. I suggest you discuss in the guideline talk page if you want to remove that exception from there. -- ReyBrujo 20:10, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are a member of WikiProject Xbox, but please try to remain neutral when editing Xbox 360. Thank you.--Kozuch (talk) 00:21, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me. If you seen the internal Microsoft documents that I have you would not be so skeptical about the RROD rates. Also I freaking love my Xbox 360. --8bitJake (talk) 04:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You recently removed Wii Sports from the bundled games section on the List of best-selling video games article. Wii Sports is bundled with Wii in all regions (except Japan). In the future please double check before removing information from a page. Zomic_13 03:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You may not have been aware of this, but removing other people's comments from talk pages is generally frowned upon here. Bladestorm 22:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the comment is ridiculous? Like, if I went to the page on Carrots and started a discussion about how Carrots are repsonsbile for killing babies? Wageslave 04:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you know that's a significantly different case. :)

Although, if the person had a link discussing babies and babies dying, and you could tell that he really was being serious, then you'd really want to think twice before outright deleting it. Generally speaking, outside of your own talkpage(meaning you can delete what I'm saying right now if you want), only the most abusive of comments should be removed. Bladestorm 04:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Just curious. Have you decided yet, if/how you're gonna add the Cadman stuff? It deserves some mentioning. GoodDay (talk) 21:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I appreciate you letting us know about what he has been doing. As a result, I will be keeping a eye. Best wishes.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 18:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I see you have been working on this article for long period of time. Do you feel that the article is clean, well-expanded, and full of correct information. I'm trying to remove articles that have been asked to be clean up. Please respond on the project talk page, I've added this question there too. Thanks DJS --DJS24 (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war . Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Dibol (talk) 09:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is a way to check IPs and cross-ref to actual user accounts, but only certain users have the ability to do so. It would have to come by way of a sockpuppet investigation, StaticGull gave you some good advice at my talk page. Sorry for the late reply. xenocidic (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, it is my intent to wish you greetings and salutations. I hope everything is well with you. It is my endeavour to accomplish the feat of becoming a wiki-friend to everyone on this website. Will you oblidge to help me, by becoming my wiki-friend? I hope you are able to help me out with this fetish of mine.

216.229.227.142 (talk) 15:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which one did you want restored? Since no one had commented on Talk:Xbox 360/Archive_12#8bitjoystick_and_the_Inside_Source_on_RROD_Truth in nearly a month, I figured we could archive it. But I can restore it if you want. xenocidic (talk) 17:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done.xenocidic (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I look forward towards working together. These kinds of edit waring grow tiresome.--8bitJake (talk) 02:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at your edits over the past few days(and some from before), I cant help but notice that what you are doing on Wikipedia may be having a negative effect on some articles. At this point, several editors have commented on your edits and yet you continue to attempt to put as much negative content on any PS3 related article and remove all negative content from any Microsoft related article. Every time you are confronted over this you reply with WP:AGF, however I have mentioned before, this has its limits. I would like to discuss this with you here rather than constantly meet you in random discussion pages and bicker over many minor changes. John.n-IRL 18:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wholly reject your characterization of my edits as "negative". Its quite clear that some articles are being maintained with POV problems. Some have Neg-POV and others have Positive-POV.

You've been essentially stalking me, and the arguments against my proposed edits have amounted to nothing more than ad hominum attacks, violations of WP:AGF and WP:PA.

I would argue that you're interest is to prevent any balance of opinion. The items I am proposing be included in the articles are not my own opinion, or OR but well verifiable, relevant. apropos and totally within the scope of the articles I am attempting to improve.

Instead of making baseless attacks on my purpose, please address try and work with other editors in good-faith.

Wageslave (talk) 18:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its ok, im watching this page so you can talk here.

This is not a personal attack, I am here to ask you about your edits. I completely disagree that your edits are done to improve the quality of an article. Such as you edit here, a small edit but one which changes the tone, and perhaps implication, of a quote. Also adding ref tags to a perfectly well sourced stub. While the refs are not in the correct format, the article is 5 lines long, the refs take up nearly as much space as the article.

That is a lazy mistake on my part. When I read the passage, I screwed up.

Two things happened there; Without the in-line citations, I didnt see (frankly, I was tired at the time), the references. I saw a large block of text, and added ^{[citation needed]} in places where the claims were made.

The line "We're beginning to feel the effects of the Geometry Wars clones on our sales via Microsoft now and are beginning a process to begin to more robustly protect our copyright and intellectual property" seemed unnatural. On reading it, it seemed "via MS now" was "added-in".

With your notice (and an evenings sleep), I've returned to the page and read all the references at the bottom of the page. I see that that line was accurate.

I've gone back and added the citations in-line for others.

Wageslave (talk) 14:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since you have claimed I am stalking you, I will explain my actions. I have seen many editors question your intentions here, and so rather than look back and see edits which I could easily take out of context, I decided to look at ones you make over a short period of time. John.n-IRL 18:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of violating WP:AGF, why dont you address the material content of the edits instead. Thanks. Wageslave (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since you refuse to discuss this I will leave it, apologies if this annoyed you or you felt this was a personal attack. All I ask is that you become more neutral in your edits. John.n-IRL 18:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No apology necessary, I'm not offended - I'd just like to try and stay on-topic. I'm quite happy to discuss my edits, but reducing the discussion to an assumption of bad faith is a method of diverting away from the topic at hand. I really dont want to engage in a discussion of character, as I think it really doesnt serve the purpose of improving the content of Wikipedia articles, which is my sole goal. As I said, I'm happy to discuss the merit of the edits I propose. I'd also like to ask you to be more neutral in your edits. Thanks. Wageslave (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. As you no doubt have noticed, many users have called you out on your POV edits to PlayStation, Nintendo, and Apple related articles on Wikipedia. I have almost had enough of this behaviour, and if it continues I will not hesitate to initiate an RFC about you. Over here, I have compiled a short report on your POV edits since you joined. This report will be used as a basis for a future RFC, should you continue your behaviour - though I hope the very existence of this draft convinces you to stop.

So basically, what I'm saying is, please stop with the POV editing, or you will be formally investigated. Thank you.

Regards, Frvernchanezzz (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please, I invite the RFC. My edits are not OR or opinion, but sourced. Please begin the RFC. Until you do, please cease harassing me with threats.

Wageslave (talk) 13:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To perhaps provide some clarity as to why various users have been frustrated with your edits, a quick look through your contribs shows that you push for the removal of criticism from Microsoft pages while simultaneously adding criticism to the wikis of their various competitors. Based on that, it appears as though you're acting on personal bias rather than simply adding "facts". Please don't think of this as harassment; it isn't meant as such. I'm just trying to help explain things.

HitotsuOne (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My edits improve neutrality, perhaps you should consider WP:POV. The purpose of harassing me for my edits is to control the POV of articles in a manner that violate WP:POV

Wageslave (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How does adding nothing but negativity to an already neutral article constitute "improving neutrality"?

HitotsuOne (talk) 05:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The material is accurate. It is neutral. That's the point. Wageslave (talk) 06:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're kind of missing the point. Okay, flipping the coin for a moment, specifically how can the act of your removing accurate information pointing to negative aspects of Microsoft-related articles improve "neutrality"?

HitotsuOne (talk) 20:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Wageslave. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wageslave, where you may want to participate. -- Frvernchanezzz (talk) 06:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I only had time to briefly review the information wageslave, and being a newer Wikipedian, I'm going to refrain from commenting on your edits. But for my part, being a self-professed "Xbox 360 Fanboy", I try to stay away from "the competition's" articles, unless it's for vandalism reversion, or the work I did with List of PlayStation 3 games to make the treatment of "console exclusive" games match how List of Xbox 360 games does it.

That being said, the Xbox 360 articles (both Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 technical problems do seem to have an overly negative slant - I'm just not sure if you or I should be the ones to rectify it. Perhaps focus your attentions to other issues, such as improving game articles, etc. which you may find more fulfilling and less adversarial. xenocidic (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is wisdom I probably need to internalize. I tend to be a contrarian by nature, and I've found that there are POV problems with these articles. The articles that some editors want to be neg-POV are this way, and same method is used to assure other articles are given pos-POV.

I'm also not a well-experienced editor, but I'm fast loosing faith in Wikipedia.

It seems that the bar is set incredibly high for inclusion of anything critical in some articles, but the same bar is virtually subterranean for other articles. Double-standards and lack of universal standards. That kind of thing is being enforced by a dominant cabal who takes "ownership" of articles.

I'm incredibly frustrated. It seems that the best way to maintain that is to intimidate, threaten, attack and frustrate.

I'm really just learning about the "culture" here on Wikipedia, and I've become saddened by what I presumed would have been a community more interested in neutral-POV, instead, the articles are maintained with distinct POV.

Wageslave (talk) 17:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept this gift. I think it will go well with the rest of your user tags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HitotsuOne (talk • contribs) 00:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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EdJohnston (talk) 02:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Good lord, you have killed a LOT of articles by the look of this page. Bravo! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.201.103 (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good work, make it appear that you agree that I negative intent without saying so. Say "bravo" to convince people that negative editors would agree that my edits are not worthwile. Is that you Karl Rove? Wageslave (talk) 01:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Specifically, you need to edit the Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wageslave page, instead of creating a page in the mainspace to respond. Kesac (talk) 23:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Wageslave Defence

Please accept this gift. I think it will go well with the rest of your user tags. Preceding unsigned comment added by HitotsuOne (talk • contribs) 00:37, 22 April 2008

• Frvernchanezzz, [1]
• John.n-IRL, [2]
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This looks like it belongs in userspace or Wikipedia space. I moved it to User:Wageslave/Defence. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wageslave - Can you give me a BRIEF summary of whats going on. I've have been off wiki for weeks now, and I'm trying to read this stupid report made about you. Also, can you tell me who filed the report, they mention "I" several times, however he/she doesn't sign their name. If they're going to file a report they need to understand signing their name is a MUST. Please get back ASAP. DJS --DJS24 01:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. It's easier to read the way I put it. I responded to each line, and it would be harder to follow if they weren't like that. On the other hand, you should go to the actual RFC page, and right a response in the "Response" section, which is where you are meant to respond. And it doesn't need to be signed as the one section of diffs and evidence was written by the one user, but you went ahead and edited after each line - the very thing you're now complaining about. I, at least, indented and italicized my writing.

And you need to write a response in this section of the real RFC, not on your personal user page. Thanks. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 08:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I posted the following to Frvernchanezzz talk page;

Please stop editing in the middle of a paragraph diffs hereand here.

Please go back to the RFC page and remove your edits from between my paragraphs. Please add your comments below my paragraphs, as the manner you're doing it now makes my own commentary absolutely unreadable. Thank-you.

For you have done this:

Both those articles included relevant cited claims. Wikipedia's threshold is VERIFIABILITY not truth.

Citations, yes. Reliable sources, no.

You say "as the replacing of the HDD does not void the warranty" but the citation said otherwise.

As I said, if you used a reliable source, (like, say Sony's official website, or even looked at a PS3 manual), you would have found that it doesn't void the warranty.

You say "regardless of how inferior the PSN is to Xbox LIVE, this is not a technical/hardware issue with the console." Why do you presume "technical problems" must mean hardware? It is a "technical problem" discussed widely, did the citation or language say otherwise?

I didn't presume it only meant hardware. "Technical issues" as a term means that a product (hardware or software) doesn't work as intended; thus the RRoD of Xbox 360's is a technical issue, but the inferiority of the PSN isn't as it works exactly as intended.

When it should be (easier to read);

Both those articles included relevant cited claims. Wikipedia's threshold is VERIFIABILITY not truth.

You say "as the replacing of the HDD does not void the warranty" but the citation said otherwise.

You say "regardless of how inferior the PSN is to Xbox LIVE, this is not a technical/hardware issue with the console." Why do you presume "technical problems" must mean hardware? It is a "technical problem" discussed widely, did the citation or language say otherwise?

Wageslave (talk) 23:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citations, yes. Reliable sources, no.

As I said, if you used a reliable source, (like, say Sony's official website, or even looked at a PS3 manual), you would have found that it doesn't void the warranty.

I didn't presume it only meant hardware. "Technical issues" as a term means that a product (hardware or software) doesn't work as intended; thus the RRoD of Xbox 360's is a technical issue, but the inferiority of the PSN isn't as it works exactly as intended.

YOUR SIGNATURE

Then, he edited my comments from his talk page calling them "Removed a messy, harassing comment from my page". and posted the R.E you see above.

My user page is my defence, if it needs to be pasted into the response section of the other page it is no matter. At present, because of the manner frvernchanezzz is editing in between every sentance I've written instead of in blocks on a per-point basis, my own writing is now co-mingled with his (unsigned) writing. It makes it absolutely impossible to read anything I've written.

I've asked him kindly (see above) to cease, and he simply edited away my objection -- calling it 'harassing' and continued as he pleased. How am I supposed to provide a defence if Frvernchanezzz refuses to allow it to be even read? To note, because Frvernchanezzz is editing my responses on his own talk page to render them unintelligible, I'll only be discussing this here. So, I've posted a link on his talk page to this.

16:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

To be honest wageslave, frvernchanezzz is only responding in a manner similar to your own, replying after each point. I will ask frvernchanezzz to mark them out so that it is clear what is written by who. Please also leave some comments at the actual RFC, not on your user pages. Thanks. (Also, removing something from your own talk page is fine, and is seen as a sign that it was read.) John.n-IRL 16:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My responses are in paragraph (blocks) done per-bullet-point, while his are in between my sentances.

If you see above the difference is pretty clear.

Look at the iphone bullet, the italicized text is breaking in between virtually every sentance, it makes my own writing unreadable.

Wageslave (talk) 16:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The similarity is that your edits are in the middle of the RFC, while they should be at the end. John.n-IRL 16:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I should edit my response to just the bullet points (taking out the claims) and past the lot into the RFC response. Wageslave (talk) 16:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can respond in anyway you like, it should just be in the response section. All the points are numbered so you may just number what you have already written in the same fashion. John.n-IRL 17:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is much, much easier to read with Fravnche...whoever's answer after each of your replies to each of the accusations. I can't believe how obvious this should be, otherwise you'd have to backtrack in the text the whole time.
But how about using coloring instead? Huh? I know that takes some work and my look cheesy, but I'd gladly volunteer to do it, and it would get rid of all the signatures disturbing the text. — Emil K. ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wageslave. I've thought of a resolution to the current RFC. It's not at all perfect, but it could work if all parties involved agree to it. I'll write it up on the RFC page when I'm not busy. Thanks. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 03:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 2 - May 7, 2008 Archive before | Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project at a Glance As of 2008-05-06, the project has: 84 Featured articles 11 Featured Lists 8 Featured Topics 0 article in Featured Article Review 206 Good Articles 1 article in Good Article Review 13 articles for Peer review 1 article for Assessment Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics in April Promoted FA/FL: Guitar Hero, List of songs in Guitar Hero, List of songs in Guitar Hero II, Halo: Contact Harvest, Age of Empires Topic: None Demoted FA/FL: None Demoted GA: Air (visual novel), SimCity (series) Promoted GA: 24: The Game, Chocobo Racing, Crackdown, Crush 40, Dynasty Warriors 4, Geneforge, Gravemind, Guitar Hero (series), Half-Life (video game), Martin O'Donnell, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Music of Final Fantasy III, Music of Final Fantasy VI, Music of Final Fantasy X-2, Music of Final Fantasy XII, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Resident Evil: Extinction, Sega Mega Drive, Super Smash Bros. (series), StarCraft: Ghost, System Shock 2, The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Warhawk (PlayStation 3 game), Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, CD-i games from the Legend of Zelda series, Xbox 360, Voices of the Lifestream News There were 256 new articles in April 2008 Current proposals and discussions Well, gee, thanks 1up! 1UP.com has recently changed their rating scale. A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details. About 14% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated. Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. WikiProject Warcraft and WikiProject StarCraft have been switched into Warcraft task force and StarCraft task force under the VG Project. WikiProject TimeSplitters has been deleted. Feature Writing about Gameplay The Gameplay section is a crucial component of a good video game article. Although it may be relatively easy for an experienced gamer to write such a section, care must be taken to maintain an appropriate focus and balance. The section should be written for readers with little or no knowledge of video gaming and should not be filled with detailed information about weapons, levels, or other such topics that are only of interest to the video gamer or that might be found in a game guide. Your goal for crafting a good section is to have people who have never picked up the game understand the basic mechanics. Do note, however, that it's safe to assume the reader has at least a minor knowledge of what a video game is. This section often begins the body text after the lead, but is sometimes placed after the Plot section. Games with little or no story can cover the plot in the Gameplay section. When writing about a game, use your head and common sense about the ordering. Generally, start off with a broad stroke—is the game a RTS or an FPS, etc. Don't talk about why the gameplay is like it is; generally, that is better placed in the 'Development' section later on in the article. Images can be added to better illustrate some aspects of gameplay. Generally, a single screenshot will suffice. Because of screenshots are non-free content, usage should be minimalised. Multiple images can be used, but all images should add something to the article beyond what the prose states. All non-free images require a fair use rationale to be used on Wikipedia. Things to remember Don't add in cruft about weapons, levels, and minute details of trivia; gameplay sections should serve as a primer to the game, not an exhaustive list of every facet of the game. Don't use gaming jargon which can be confusing to readers, such as "NPC" or "MMORPG". If you use these terms, state the full name and the abbreviation the first time it appears. 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You should take a look at the resolution that was proposed on the talk page of your RFC and post your comments about it. Ignoring the situation won't make this go away. In fact, ignoring it is probably the worst thing you can do. People are already talking about getting an administrator on the case and that's something you don't want to have happen. It would be in your best interest to help resolve the conflict. Again, I strongly urge you to take a look at the resolution, post your comments about it and help bring this conflict to an end. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.217.222 (talk) 16:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This whole thing is ridiculous. From what I have seen I havent seen anything wrong. Weve worked together on a couple different articles as well and saw nothing wrong. I think these people are just pissed off because he is making your non-neutral articles neutral.Dvferret (talk) 14:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These people are helpless... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dvferret (talk • contribs) 14:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 3 - June 4, 2008 Archive before | Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. 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It provides a history of how the game came to be and provides real world information needed for an article to claim comprehensiveness. However, writing this section can be difficult because the amount and type of information available will vary for each game. One of the best sources for such information is a developer interview. These can provide insight into the thought process of the designers and give examples of influences and obstacles encountered. Previews can also be helpful by giving a snap shot of the game before it was released and may mention development issues that were still being addressed. When writing about development, common sense should be used to organize content to maintain a sense of flow for the reader. 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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 4 - July 9, 2008 Archive before | Archive after To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. 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A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details. About 32% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated. Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games redirected to WP:VG. See MfD. MU* taskforce moved to page under WP:VG. See new MU* task force page. Neopets and RuneScape taskforces deleted. See MfD. All talk pages moved to archives under WT:VG Wikipedia:WikiProject Dynasty Warriors deleted. Feature: Writing the Reception In many video game articles, the Reception section is the last main section of prose. As its name suggests, within the section you should summarize the critical reaction to the game. The section should provide a high-level overview of what the critics liked and didn’t like about the game; it is a summary, not a repetition of what publications thought. Therefore, don’t put in excessive, long winded quotes or have a paragraph detailing IGN’s thoughts on the game. To prevent cluttering of the prose with scores, reviews table such as {{VG Reviews}} can be used to organize this kind of information. A good way to lead off the section is a by-the-numbers or at a glance snapshot of the game’s reception; you can use aggregate scores to suggest an overall critical response to the game, and can provide sales figures (if you have them) for the game’s release. Commonly, the rest of the reception is broken into positive and negative paragraphs. Entirely separate ‘Praise’ and ‘Controversy’ or ‘Negative comments’ or the like are strongly discouraged as troll magnets. If the game has won any awards, then listing them at the bottom of the reception section is an option. Other things to remember: Don’t list every single review in the reviews table; likewise, don’t mention every award the game has ever gotten. Generally, talk about what the reviewers say rather than speaking for them; for example, “Reviewer X of Publication Y took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z” instead of “Review X said that “I took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z.” If a reviewer has a good comment which sums up the positive/negative/overall reaction, or a particular sentiment common in many reviews, it might be more appropriate to use. If adding sales data, make sure to provide context; did it sell those 4.2 million units within three months of release or three years? If possible, break down the sales by region; did the Japanese like the game, but Americans not buy it? Use reviews whose scores are outliers from the average ratings to find key points that were liked or disliked about a game. 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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 5 - July 2008 Archive before | Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of July 2008, the project has: 92 Featured articles 19 Featured Lists 11 Featured Topics 0 articles in Featured Article Review 16 A-Class articles 231 Good Articles 1 articles in Good Article Review 11 articles for Peer review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: Flood (Halo), List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, List of voice actors in the Grand Theft Auto series, Super Smash Bros. Brawl Topic: Devil May Cry (series), Super Smash Bros. (series) Demoted FA/FL: None Promoted GA: Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy III, Golden Sun: The Lost Age, Guitar Hero: On Tour, Halo 2 Original Soundtrack, Halo: The Flood, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, WWE SmackDown (video game series) Demoted GA: RuneScape News There were 304 new articles in July 2008 Well, gee, thanks 1up! 1UP.com recently changed their rating scale. See discussion for details. The list of almost 700 articles has been checked and updated. Special thanks to MrKIA11, Dukeruckley, JFlav, FMF, and several other editors for checking the large number of articles. Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. Wikipedia:WikiProject Tales of deleted. Wikipedia:WikiProject Indie Game Developers deleted. Wikipedia:WikiProject Arcade games moved to page under WP:VG. See new Arcade task force page. 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It can be hard to definitely prove the a website has a "reputation" for accuracy. Thus, it's probably easier to go with established sites to begin with, such as IGN or GameSpot. If you use a source with borderline qualifications, be prepared to justify the site at content review or to other editors. WikiProject Video Games has a partially-complete listing of vetted sources in print or online at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources, as well as more detailed information on what constitutes a reliable source. To find sources on the internet, checking Google News as well as simple web searches can help spot references you might have missed. Often, however, older news articles are locked behind pay gates or subscription services. A workaround is using a service like ProQuest or LexisNexis, although unless you have access to these through a college or education institution it will likely cost you money regardless. Libraries can have old newspapers and copies of magazines; to assist in finding print sources online, WikiProject Video Games has a Magazines Department where you can contact users to get copies of certain reviews, previews, or features from old magazines. If you have gaming magazines of your own, add yourself to the list! Things you can help with: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Melee weapon (2 participants) Godzilla: Monster of Monsters (1 participant) Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters (1 participant) Julia Chang (4 participants) Pokémon: Mewtwo Returns (6 participants) Araya (video game) (2 participants) Looky (Rainbow Friends) (11 participants) Dreamcutter (4 participants) Chao (Sonic the Hedgehog) (5 participants) Cory Schmitz (3 participants) Gravity Rush (franchise) (6 participants) HellCup (3 participants) Crazy Bus (6 participants) Celestial (Ed Sheeran song) (8 participants) Somequest (5 participants) Perky Little Things (6 participants) Reforj (5 participants; relisted) Parkour Civilization (12 participants; relisted) Merge discussions 2024 in downloadable songs for the Rock Band series (discussion) 2023 in downloadable songs for the Rock Band series (discussion) Harvest Moon DS: Sunshine Islands (discussion) Input lag (discussion) Neo Geo Pocket (discussion) Minecraft – Volume Beta (discussion) Other discussions No major discussions Featured content candidates The Sims 4 (nom) Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted (nom) The Suicide of Rachel Foster (nom) Claire Redfield (nom) Celeste (FPC) Pokémon episodes removed from rotation (nom) Donkey Kong (nom) Good article nominations Puff-puff (onomatopoeia) (nom) Tina Armstrong (start) Kim Kitsuragi (start) Miner 2049er (start) Pixel Piracy (start) Dr Disrespect (nom) Pokémon fan games (nom) The Outer Worlds (start) River Raid (start) The Great Giana Sisters (start) Visions of Mana (nom) Haunter (Pokémon) (start) Lavender Town (nom) Bit City (start) Dendy (start) SimsVille (start) Dark Urge (start) Pokémon Scarlet and Violet (start) Jeanette Voerman (start) Mario Party 7 (start) Crono (start) DYK nominations No did you know nominations Reviews and reassessments The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (nom) Pokémon Channel (nom) A Space for the Unbound (rev) Articles that need... assessment (3) (0) reassessment (0) cleanup (7) infoboxes (13) cover art (253) screenshots (8,833) photos (64) translation from japan (188) creation merging Project Navigation VG Project Main pages Main project – talk Project category – talk Portal – talk VG Project Departments Assessment – talk Cleanup – talk Peer review – talk   Magazines – talk Newsletter – talk Video Game Images – talk

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The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 6 - August 2008 Archive before | Archive after To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of August 2008, the project has: 97 Featured articles 20 Featured Lists 11 Featured Topics 1 articles in Featured Article Review 17 A-Class articles 238 Good Articles 0 articles in Good Article Review 14 articles for Peer review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: 4X, Alleyway, Conan (2007 video game), List of songs in Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, Midtown Madness, Wipeout 3 Topic: None Demoted FA/FL: None Promoted GA: Chocolatier, Cloud Strife, Discography of Final Fantasy I and II, Discography of Final Fantasy VII, The Guardian Legend, Guitar Hero III Mobile, Halo: First Strike, Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, Key Sounds Label, Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Necrid, Paper Mario, Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Secret of Evermore, StarCraft: Brood War, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Xenogears Original Soundtrack Demoted GA: GoldenEye 007 News Special note: The naming convention for the newsletter has altered. Instead of being labeled the month it is delivered, it is now labeled the month the content applies to. See discussion. There were 204 new articles in August 2008 Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. The following Wikiprojects are candidates to be turned into task forces. Nintendo Project: See discussion. Castlevania Project: See discussion. Pro Gaming Project: See discussion. The first video game genre article has reached Featured article status—4X. Special thanks to Randomran for pushing the article up the quality scale. Feature: Departments Assessment Department: This department focuses on assessing the quality of Wikipedia's video games articles. The resulting article ratings are used within the project to aid in recognizing excellent contributions and identifying topics in need of further work, and are also expected to play a role in the WP:1.0 program, and more specifically in the Video games essential articles page. Two new quality ratings have been implemented into the Assessment Department's scale. The new Wikipedia-wide C-Class rating (see category) has been added to the scale between Start-Class and B-Class. Because of this, the criteria of the B-Class has been tweaked to better illustrate the difference between a B-Class and C-Class article. An older rating, List-Class (see category), has been added to the scale as well. It is mainly used on pages that have very little prose and are primarily tables and lists of information. Editors are encouraged to submit articles for assessment if they feel an article has made significant progress up the assessment scale or has gained importance within video game articles. Assessed articles generally receive some feedback to further improve the article. Experienced editors are also encouraged to help with assessment of articles when the number of requests gets too large. Peer Review Department: The Peer review process for WikiProject Video games exposes video-game-related articles to closer scrutiny from a broader group of editors, and is intended for high-quality articles that have already undergone extensive work, often as a way of preparing a Featured article candidate. It is not a academic peer review by a group of experts in a particular subject, and articles that undergo this process should not be assumed to have greater authority than any other. Editors are encouraged to use the Video game peer review process, as well as the regular Wikipedia-wide process, to improve the quality of articles. While a peer review can be done at any time, it strongly suggested to use this process before an article goes up for Good article nomination and Featured article or Feature list candidacy as articles cannot be a candidate for GA or FA while at peer review. Editors are also encouraged to leave feedback for articles undergoing peer review. A process such as this will not work if editors do not give as well as take. Feedback can range from brief comments after skimming through a page to a full blown dissection of grammar, structure, and references. Either way, every bit helps. Things you can help with: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Melee weapon (2 participants) Godzilla: Monster of Monsters (1 participant) Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters (1 participant) Julia Chang (4 participants) Pokémon: Mewtwo Returns (6 participants) Araya (video game) (2 participants) Looky (Rainbow Friends) (11 participants) Dreamcutter (4 participants) Chao (Sonic the Hedgehog) (5 participants) Cory Schmitz (3 participants) Gravity Rush (franchise) (6 participants) HellCup (3 participants) Crazy Bus (6 participants) Celestial (Ed Sheeran song) (8 participants) Somequest (5 participants) Perky Little Things (6 participants) Reforj (5 participants; relisted) Parkour Civilization (12 participants; relisted) Merge discussions 2024 in downloadable songs for the Rock Band series (discussion) 2023 in downloadable songs for the Rock Band series (discussion) Harvest Moon DS: Sunshine Islands (discussion) Input lag (discussion) Neo Geo Pocket (discussion) Minecraft – Volume Beta (discussion) Other discussions No major discussions Featured content candidates The Sims 4 (nom) Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted (nom) The Suicide of Rachel Foster (nom) Claire Redfield (nom) Celeste (FPC) Pokémon episodes removed from rotation (nom) Donkey Kong (nom) Good article nominations Puff-puff (onomatopoeia) (nom) Tina Armstrong (start) Kim Kitsuragi (start) Miner 2049er (start) Pixel Piracy (start) Dr Disrespect (nom) Pokémon fan games (nom) The Outer Worlds (start) River Raid (start) The Great Giana Sisters (start) Visions of Mana (nom) Haunter (Pokémon) (start) Lavender Town (nom) Bit City (start) Dendy (start) SimsVille (start) Dark Urge (start) Pokémon Scarlet and Violet (start) Jeanette Voerman (start) Mario Party 7 (start) Crono (start) DYK nominations No did you know nominations Reviews and reassessments The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (nom) Pokémon Channel (nom) A Space for the Unbound (rev) Articles that need... assessment (3) (0) reassessment (0) cleanup (7) infoboxes (13) cover art (253) screenshots (8,833) photos (64) translation from japan (188) creation merging Project Navigation VG Project Main pages Main project – talk Project category – talk Portal – talk VG Project Departments Assessment – talk Cleanup – talk Peer review – talk   Magazines – talk Newsletter – talk Video Game Images – talk

• Newsletter delivery by xenobot 01:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 7 - September 2008 Archive before | Archive after To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project At a Glance As of September 2008, the project has: 102 Featured articles 20 Featured Lists 12 Featured Topics 1 articles in Featured Article Review 8 articles for Peer review 18 A-Class articles 243 Good Articles 2 Good Topics 1 articles in Good Article Review Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics Promoted FA/FL: Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Mario Power Tennis, Myst IV: Revelation, Space Invaders, The World Ends with You Promoted FT: