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faq page Frequently asked questions To view the response to a question, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Article help Q: Can the Article rescue squadron (ARS) save my article from deletion? A: Not exactly. First off, Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and articles can be changed by anyone and no individual exclusively controls any specific article. Secondly, if an article meets Wikipedia's policies on notability and reliable sourcing it likely will not be deleted. There are also alternatives to deletion which may be appropriate. The project members will do what they can as time allows. We suggest that you reference Tips to help rescue articles and the Article Rescue Squadron Guide to saving articles Q: Will ARS help fix the rest of article problems after the deletion discussion? A: In theory, No. Often, however, individual members will assist after the discussion has closed. You may want to contact a related WikiProject to see if someone there can assist. Sometimes project members completely overhaul an article but in practice most changes are incremental, and you should take initiative to add sourcing and improve the article yourself. Many times other editors will post sources to the deletion discussion; if they meet our sourcing standards then feel free to apply them to the article. Scope Q: Does ARS work to rescue other content on Wikipedia (other than articles)? A: While articles remain our main focus, poorly-formed encyclopedia content can be found in other namespaces. If content up for deletion, such as a template or image, is poorly-formed and you feel it can be fixed, go ahead and add it to the Rescue list, to request the ARS' consideration. Please be aware that unlike articles, templates and categories often change and are renamed to serve our readers. Q: Does ARS contribute to guideline and policy discussions? A: Similar to articles, policies and content are not exclusively controlled by any individual(s). If you think ARS should know about a policy discussion you can post a neutral notification, such as, "There is a discussion about topic at _____." on the ARS Talk page. Avoid even the appearance of telling anyone how to think or vote in the discussion— it's very important to keep the message neutral when inviting people to participate. See WP:Canvassing for clarification regarding appropriate discussion notifications. Q: What if I object to what the ARS is doing? A: ARS is no different from any of the hundreds of Wikiprojects in that we collaborate to improve Wikipedia. We are a maintenance Wikiproject, and as such our scope is not subject-focused (like a WikiProject focused on a specific sport, country or profession), as much as policy-focused to determine if content adheres to Wikipedia's policies on sourcing and notability. We try to determine if an article meets Wikipedia's notability guidleines as well as is it verifiable to reliable sources. We're also apt to suggest merging, listifying, redirecting and deleting as appropriate. Notifying the Article Rescue Squadron is essentially a means to request assistance with an article or content that one feels meets notability guidelines, or should be retained for other reasons. The goal is to improve articles and other content, to benefit our readers. All are welcome to help ARS improve the encyclopedia, just as at any of the other WikiProjects, which encompass a variety of views and interests. No canvassing Q: Does this project canvass editors to keep articles? A: No. The goal of the Article Rescue Squadron (ARS) is to clean up content that would otherwise be deleted. By necessity, this involves examining the deletion discussion to see what the problems with the article are, and then remedying them. If done correctly, this article cleanup improves the encyclopedia. If an article nominated for deletion is improved and retained on Wikipedia by this process, vis-à-vis addressing a nominator's concerns, the nominator hasn't "lost". Rather, the encyclopedia has won. Using this talk page Q:What about identifying and pointing out specific users who are nominating a lot of articles for deletion without apparent due cause? This talk page is for co-ordinating matters related to this project's purpose, which is rescuing content on notable topics from deletion. This is not a forum for dispute resolution. If there are issues with an individual user, talk to them personally or make a report or request at an appropriate noticeboard.

This page has been mentioned by multiple media organizations: James Gleick (8 August 2008). "Wikipedians Leave Cyberspace, Meet in Egypt: In Alexandria, 650 Devotees Bemoan Vandals, Debate Rules; Deletionists vs. Inclusionists". Nicholson Baker (20 March 2008). "The Charms of Wikipedia". Jennifer Schuessler (8 March 2008). "Gone to Deletopedia". Adversus Wikipedia (17 September 2008). "Adversus Wikipedia". John Broughton (2008). "Ch.19 - Deleting Existing Articles".

This project page was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination: Snow Opposed, 18 May 2022, see discussion. Nomination withdrawn, 25 Oct 2021, see discussion. Keep, 19 November 2019, see discussion. Snow Keep, 23 June 2019, see discussion. No Consensus, 8 December 2012, see discussion. Speedy Keep, 10 February 2012, see discussion. Keep, 18 May 2009, see discussion. Speedy Keep, 12 July 2008, see discussion. Speedy Keep, 23 September 2007, see discussion. Nomination withdrawn, 19 September 2007, see discussion.

This project page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Article Rescue Squadron This page is within the scope of the Article Rescue Squadron WikiProject, a collaborative effort to rescue items from deletion when they can be improved through regular editing. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can help improve Wikipedia articles considered by others to be based upon notable topics.Article Rescue SquadronWikipedia:Article Rescue SquadronTemplate:WikiProject Article Rescue SquadronArticle Rescue Squadron articles

Article Rescue Squadron was featured in a WikiProject Report in the Signpost on 5 March 2014.

There are a good number of fighting game characters being sent to AfD and merged, for not having sources. I figured that this may be important to this WikiProject, since you may be able to find sources and save some of the articles. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:55, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, QuicoleJR, what led you, a user who's only been editing since January, to this relatively inactive Wikiproject for that sort of assistance? Or are you someone who's been editing far longer than your current account would indicate? Jclemens (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not here for assistance, I was just making sure to notify anyone who may care. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I assure you I am not a sockpuppet, if that is what you mean. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I added to Tips section:

• Check 1,000 articles at Shortest biographies of living people, updated daily. All are in need of improvement.

If this information should be relocated elsewhere within the Rescue WP project page, please feel free to move. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 14:57, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article has great references and is one of the biggest music licensing and stock footage companies in the world. In addition, they are an Israeli startup. I think the article is being attacked in AFD and would like some help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.153.142.52 (talk) 05:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deceased Wikipedian and member of ARS: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-17/Obituary. -- GreenC 11:10, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He was active during the earliest days of ARS. His first contribution was in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cope Truss and Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron_–_Rescue_list/Archive_1#Cope_Truss. -- GreenC 11:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know him, but RIP.★Trekker (talk) 18:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"You got to worry about deletionists," he warned. -- GreenC 00:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I only just saw the sad news and came here to share but find that GreenC has taken care of it. I met David when he came to London for the Wikimania in 2014 and was impressed by his enthusiasm and good nature. He gave me one of his trademark Wikipedia Editor caps which I wore to many editathons but it went astray at a WikiData event in Cambridge and so I need a replacement. Perhaps we should get some ARS merchandise made now? Andrew🐉(talk) 21:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Just a word of warning as I just noticed that I suddenly wasn't subscribed to the rescue list at Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Rescue list anymore after the recent move by @Ammarpad and @Fram. I'm not sure if there is anything an admin could do to bulk restore the subscriptions since the users deleted the original page? Raladic (talk) 15:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Raladic, the original page wasn't deleted par se, it's now a redirect, see Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron – Rescue list. I think the Topic subscription is supposed to work with page moves. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It might for talk pages, but the rescue list is a project page and hence my warning that my action bar suddenly had "Subscribe" instead of "Unsubscribe" when I navigated to it this morning. Raladic (talk) 15:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and actually, I can see that I am still subscribed to the page that is now a redirect at Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron – Rescue list - so yeah I don't quite know what happened there, but I think it might be that project page subscriptions don't move over in a page move but are hard linked to the page title? Raladic (talk) 15:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Raladic, Ammarpad, and CFA: I filed T373543. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Ahecht. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These 12 pages were culled from yesterday's unassessed AFC backlog; from the moment of this writing, they may not be long for Wikipedia in the next how many weeks unless some action is taken. After I spent countless days grading hundreds and hundreds of articles in an ambitious, thankless one-man task--a few of which were never attended to since the early 2010s--it's time we finally discussed their chances for a change before it's too soon.

At press time, two in the backlog--Nathaniel Jenkins and Prateek Raj, both BLPs--are under scrutiny at AFD; no further comments on those. Anyway, on with the chaff we found within the wheat--listed alphabetically. (All have been tagged for {{notability}} unless otherwise noted; tag dates, and source-hunting links, are provided next to their titles.)

As an eventualist/incrementalist, I may be a bit sorry if they end up delisted. But these topics, diverse as they may be, do matter to someone, somewhere. So as it stands, wishing those willing to save those topics good luck--and thanks to the AFC reviewers/participants alike for all your hard work. (Feel free to leave me talk-page feedback.)

Maybe it's time I, an AFC drafter myself, took brief breaks from WP as other off-site commitments compete for my time and attention. All that grading was already overwhelming to begin with...

(XPosted from WT:AFC.)

--Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]