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Marine Engineer

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I'm having difficulty finding Volume 5 of the Marine Engineer (Apr 1883-Mar 1884) online. It should be available, so if anyone can provide a link I would be grateful. Mjroots (talk) 06:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If all else fails, I will be visiting a library that has (all? or most) editions of the journal in November. if no one else responds, is there a specific piece you are looking for? GGOTCC (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GGOTCC: I was hoping for an url that is publicly available. The "Launches and Trial Trips" section is what I'm looking at. I've been working on the list of ship launches in 1883, but I have other sources available. Mjroots (talk) 06:11, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

inadvertent plagiarism

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I made this edit[1] to alter some text that inadvertently plagiarised the source. Describing the situation without copying turned out to be not as easy as one might first think as most of the sentence is the names of ships and there seems only one logical order in which to make the point. Hence using the precise terminology ("working up") of the source makes this look a lot worse. It has now been put back to the problem text with this[2] with an edit summary that I feel misses the point (it is whether Wikipedia plagiarises the source, not an individual editor). It seems excessive to involve an administrator in this, but I would appreciate an experienced editor taking a look.

I am posting here as the article talk page does not appear to be on many watch lists.

I have a busy day and don't know when I will be back on Wikipedia.
Thanks, ThoughtIdRetired TIR 07:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for USS Texas (BB-35)

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USS Texas (BB-35) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 5 § USS Dory (SS-352). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Flag of convenience

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Flag of convenience has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What defines a ship class?

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I'm in a bit of a bind here when looking at the Barracuda/Suffren class of submarines. In short, the design is called Barracuda-class by the manufacturer (Naval Group; they sold other Barracudas to the Netherlands) and Suffren-class by the French Navy. Is there a guideline of sorts as to how ship families should be named? I see for instance the Kilo-class submarines are just that, independent of their country of deployment, and same thing goes for the Agosta-class. But the category is a big mess so I'm quite unsure of the proper convention. Any input/advice is welcome. Superboilles (talk) 07:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some related discussion from January: Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (ships)#More guidance for naming conventions for class articles. Tupsumato (talk) 17:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very helpful, thanks a lot, and in fact exactly what I needed. Superboilles (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some of it depends on the general consensus of sources (if there is one), and sometimes you have to make a judgement call. As an example, I had to deal with this several years ago in this case. Parsecboy (talk) 18:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]