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Note to self
[change source]- Waterloo Road - Create individual series pages, fix Ep list mess (footnotes) –Davey2010Talk 02:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- VWGolf- Fix article, fix links (ie MK etc) –Davey2010Talk 02:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Volkswagen Golf –Davey2010Talk 20:16, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- VWGolf- Fix article, fix links (ie MK etc) –Davey2010Talk 02:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Waterloo Road - Create individual series pages, fix Ep list mess (footnotes) –Davey2010Talk 02:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Note to self 2
[change source]- Add definetions of state-funded etc to List of schools in Medway and List of schools in Kent –Davey2010Talk 14:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Accidental transclusion of {{copyvio}} in User:Davey2010/RedWarn/Default Warnings
[change source]Hi, just saying it seems like User:Davey2010/RedWarn/Default Warnings is in the possible copyright violations category. This seems to be be because it has JSON containing this:
"name": "Removing {{copyvio}} template from articles"
I am fairly confident that is not your intent, but I don't know what parser you use with that JSON so I'm not sure how to stop the template from being transcluded there. — 76.212.74.243 (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @76.212.74.243, Many thanks for letting me know I had no idea it showed there - I've blanked the page for now, Thanks again, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Preventing the erasure of vandal edits
[change source]Hi! I still want to ask, on what grounds did you undo my edits in articles that literally contained false information, which directly violates the rules of the project? Skerpsov (talk) 14:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Skerpsov, You re-added vandalism here[1] so I therefore believed you were a sock of the IP, If you don't want to be reverted then I would respectfully suggest you don't re-add vandalism that block-evading IPs are adding, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Short question
[change source]Just curious, have you thought of returning to WM Commons? It has been over a year since your indef block there. I apologise if this question upset you. A1Cafel (talk) 09:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @A1Cafel, Many thanks for your comment,
- In short no - They weren't interested in unblocking me in August and I highly doubt anything's changed since to be honest. And plus they'd no doubt use the block on here to say "he's clearly not learned his lesson" or some bs excuse, so yeah unless they unblock me as time served then my block expiration date there won't be changing anytime in my lifetime unfortunately,
- I of course regret what I said and that I'm the only person responsible for my words 110% but in some ways I also feel resentful at how I was treated or how it was handled - It just felt like "Oh he swore me, indef for him" and even 2 months later that didn't change despite me apologising and saying I would do things differently,
- But yeah no I'm happy without Commons to be honest, Of course I'd love to edit there again but too much has been said and done and that bridge has unfortunately been burnt,
- I'm happy enough on here and EN so it's all good :), Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Flesch Kincaid Calculator
[change source]https://goodcalculators.com/flesch-kincaid-calculator/ –Davey2010Talk 19:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Why do you think people need to know that they borrowed a train for a couple of journeys 22 years ago? Rathfelder (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Because it was a part of history and because it's sourced ?.... –Davey2010Talk 16:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Doesnt seem very significant. Rathfelder (talk) 16:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well that's your opinion, Have a great day, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Doesnt seem very significant. Rathfelder (talk) 16:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
QD
[change source]Why does List of SpongeBob SquarePants cast members need QDing? G6 is not valid. Thx fr33kman 21:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Fr33kman, I didn't know if this was associated with an LTA so thought it was best it was started from fresh, I know a few TV shows attract LTAs but maybe this IP is fine and I guess any future others, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
edit warring
[change source]I’m not edit warring. Ciaran.london (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- this says otherwise. –Davey2010Talk 23:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
IceTre Request
[change source]Discussion closed. Please continue this on the RFD page. –Davey2010Talk 11:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello there, about 12 days ago “IceTre” was nominated for deletion and in the most recent reply to you on the “IceTre” deletion talk page I gave absolute without a doubt proof of the subject’s notability (I was able to prove that the subject has released two or more albums on a major record label / or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable.) There has been no response from anyone in 5 days so I am asking for you to please grant acceptance of the subject’s wiki. Since it’s been 5 days after the 17th when a decision was to be made I fear that it may become forgotten about. I do not wish to burden you with this. If you can close the request out and grant its acceptance to stay then I can continue to work on the subjects wiki and add in more sources to keep the page in healthy and proper condition and you can further continue your work here on Wiki and outside of it as well. Please let me know if that is agreeable. Thank you Stephenbestk28 (talk) 03:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Stephenbestk28 Davey is not and admin and cannot close this discussion, please wait for and admin to look into this. Thanks Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 03:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephenbestk28 adding on, most of the community think this article should be deleted. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 03:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure if they were the admin or not. It's the communities duty to feel that way and it's my duty to convince them otherwise. That's how this works but if my evidence / proof is not being taken into consideration or being ignored then that shows a clear bias and unfair practices.
- Question, did you look at the evidence provided or did you simply comment without looking into the evidence? The subject released two or more albums on a major record label under Guideline #5 in the Music Notability Guideline. I proved that the subject did release music on a major record label thus the evidence was provided.
- In court you have to show up to testify otherwise your statements are nullified. They made the statements for it to be deleted but then when I provided evidence on why it's notable then I hear nothing back which renders their statements null.
- If someone wants me to provide evidence and I provide evidence and they don't say anything about it then that mean I sufficiently provided evidence to a degree where it was suitable enough for no response.
- Ironically speaking, none of those people who nominated it to be deleted could actually prove that the subject isn't notable: they simply raised their concerns but they didn't say anything that wasn't able to be provided with evidence. Stephenbestk28 (talk) 04:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn’t trying to say it was going to be deleted, I was just telling the community opinion and I am not related to this topic. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 04:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- And also in order to make a solid case there has to be sufficient evidence to back up all claims so skimming over my paragraphs of information falls under unfair practices as well. There has to be impartial fairness behind the process which includes taking my evidence into consideration and weighing out both options.
- I was able to prove notability for the subject and as that stands there should be no other hiccups based on that fact alone.
- The community said the subject was guilty and my evidence proves the subject is innocent so if that's the case then how come this doesn't feel like a fair trial? I'm just simply using that example as a point reference. Stephenbestk28 (talk) 04:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Post this in the community discussion for the deletion Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 04:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephenbestk28, As kindly noted by Cactus I'm not an admin so I don't have the final say here, I still maintain it should be deleted and wont be changing my mind, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- In court they are allowed to poll the jury and find out why they voted guilty or not guilty. You asked for proof of notability, i gave it to you, and you still vote no so this seemingly is no longer about whether the subject is notable or not but it's about self preservation (aka sticking to your guns) and that you simply "don't like the wiki". This is no longer about notability. You are allowing yourself to stay unconvinced and that is okay but for the future do not ask for evidence only to deny it's existence when it's presented to you. There is no reason to be on a jury just to disrupt the process if nothing can be provided to change your mind. Stephenbestk28 (talk) 04:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please do not discuss about an RFD with on the user talk page, please write all this at the RFD discussion. Thanks. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- You haven't provided any evidence that the subject meets NMUSIC and GNG - All's you've done is given your opinion and not much else. Either way I'm closing this because I have no interest in further discussing it,
- I will say this - I would invite you to check out the following articles Pyramids FC TV, MIUI, 2002 FIFA World Cup qualification (OFC), and COSAFA Cup - All 4 articles ended up at RFD and all 4 were obviously kept because they were notable, I expanded and sourced those articles too - In short if the subject is notable It's a keep, if it's not notable then it gets deleted,
- So you can peddle along with this "I don't like the wiki" as much as you like - I don't care for the subject, I care about article inclusion and keeping articles that are notable. Have a great day. –Davey2010Talk 11:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please do not discuss about an RFD with on the user talk page, please write all this at the RFD discussion. Thanks. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- In court they are allowed to poll the jury and find out why they voted guilty or not guilty. You asked for proof of notability, i gave it to you, and you still vote no so this seemingly is no longer about whether the subject is notable or not but it's about self preservation (aka sticking to your guns) and that you simply "don't like the wiki". This is no longer about notability. You are allowing yourself to stay unconvinced and that is okay but for the future do not ask for evidence only to deny it's existence when it's presented to you. There is no reason to be on a jury just to disrupt the process if nothing can be provided to change your mind. Stephenbestk28 (talk) 04:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephenbestk28, As kindly noted by Cactus I'm not an admin so I don't have the final say here, I still maintain it should be deleted and wont be changing my mind, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Post this in the community discussion for the deletion Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 04:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stephenbestk28 adding on, most of the community think this article should be deleted. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 03:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not change it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No more changes should be made to this discussion.
Warning
[change source]Please, do not revert any of my changes! I beg of you! 93.40.45.95 (talk) 05:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Then don't add unsourced content. –Davey2010Talk 11:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- So, if I add unsourced content, my change will be reverted and I will probably get blocked, right? 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Yes that is correct, If you're adding cast members to a article than all's you need to do is a find a news article that says they were in that show, unfortunately IMDb cannot be used (see en:WP:Citing IMDb), Hope this helps, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010Talk 11:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have a question: can Behind The Voice Actors (https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com) be used as a citation for certain cast members? 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- It can't as it's a fan-made website, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since "Behind The Voice Actors" is a fan-made website, it cannot be used as a citation for certain cast members. Thanks for the support and have a nice day, Davey. 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- You know you can create an account, right? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:53, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Thanks and you have a nice day too, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:53, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, there's something else I need to tell you. Profanity, sexual themes, nudity, and all other things are not allowed in any Wikipedia, especially the Simple English Wikipedia (this one). If somebody will put any of these in a Wikipedia page (for example Oijfeaoijgeagea), his/her change will be reverted and he/she will probably get blocked. For example, Oijfeaoijgeagea got blocked indefinitely after doing some disruptive editing.
- I don't know any news articles that can be used as a citation for some cast members. If there's one I know, I will return. If there aren't any news articles I know, then there is no desire to return. Thanks and have a nice day. 93.33.22.207 (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh okay Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here's the final word: if any profanity, sexual themes, nudity, etc. is found in a Wikipedia page, it will be deleted and somebody might block the man who inserted one of those things I've mentioned earlier. Bye! 93.33.22.207 (talk) 12:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is my talkpage and as such I get the final word here and it's this; go read en:WP:NOTCENSORED, images showing the human anatomy are allowed and are fine, If you have a problem with it then go to WP:Simple talk and propose changes, Until then images stay as are. –Davey2010Talk 14:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, even though this is your talk page. Thanks and have a nice day. 93.33.22.207 (talk) 14:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, you too, –Davey2010Talk 14:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, even though this is your talk page. Thanks and have a nice day. 93.33.22.207 (talk) 14:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is my talkpage and as such I get the final word here and it's this; go read en:WP:NOTCENSORED, images showing the human anatomy are allowed and are fine, If you have a problem with it then go to WP:Simple talk and propose changes, Until then images stay as are. –Davey2010Talk 14:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here's the final word: if any profanity, sexual themes, nudity, etc. is found in a Wikipedia page, it will be deleted and somebody might block the man who inserted one of those things I've mentioned earlier. Bye! 93.33.22.207 (talk) 12:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh okay Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since "Behind The Voice Actors" is a fan-made website, it cannot be used as a citation for certain cast members. Thanks for the support and have a nice day, Davey. 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- It can't as it's a fan-made website, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have a question: can Behind The Voice Actors (https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com) be used as a citation for certain cast members? 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Yes that is correct, If you're adding cast members to a article than all's you need to do is a find a news article that says they were in that show, unfortunately IMDb cannot be used (see en:WP:Citing IMDb), Hope this helps, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010Talk 11:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- So, if I add unsourced content, my change will be reverted and I will probably get blocked, right? 5.180.207.80 (talk) 11:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Edit on Ice Age (2002 movie)
[change source]Hi, Davey. I noticed that you did a change to Ice Age (2002 movie), and here's what you did: you copied and pasted the cast list of that movie from the English Wikipedia. In addition, there are some voice actors that were not mentioned in the English Wikipedia:
- Stephen Root also voiced Start #1;
- Alan Tudyk also voiced Dodo #4 and Freaky Mammal #2;
- Chris Wedge also voiced Dodo #5;
- Tara Strong also voiced Start #2;
- Peter Ackerman as Dodo #1. Ackerman also voiced Freaky Mammal #1;
- P. J. Benjamin as Dodo #2;
- Josh Hamilton as Dodo #3. Hamilton also voiced Aardvark;
- Denny Dillon as Glypto #1;
- Mitzi McCall as Glypto #2.
All of these voice actors are credited in the ending credits of that movie. This is all I can tell you for now. Thank you so much and I hope you have a nice day. 5.180.207.80 (talk) 17:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I've reinstated your edits as you're indeed correct they did voice those characters too, –Davey2010Talk 18:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Good job! In addition, you said: "Appreciate this isn't the normal way of citing however bar end credits there's nothing else confirming these and obviously I cannot link to said credits as they're copyright violations anyway"
Have a nice day! 93.40.82.17 (talk) 06:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)- Thanks and no worries, Have a nice day too, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 10:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you help me appeal because the administer made it so I cannot even appeal on my talk page!!!!!! 132.147.192.240 (talk) 18:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I can't sorry - I would kindly suggest you don't trout people or leave anyone any messages there (that includes saying hi to everyone everywhere) - Once your block expires in a month focus on articles and improving the encyclopedia, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you help me appeal because the administer made it so I cannot even appeal on my talk page!!!!!! 132.147.192.240 (talk) 18:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks and no worries, Have a nice day too, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 10:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Good job! In addition, you said: "Appreciate this isn't the normal way of citing however bar end credits there's nothing else confirming these and obviously I cannot link to said credits as they're copyright violations anyway"
Recent contributions
[change source]Hello there I just wanted to say that the edits that were provided were up to date edits. McClanahan died in 2010 not 2024. Details were provided. For Scorsese he directs more than just movies if you take a look at his filmography. The information on the rappers are currently up to date also. The information was outdated. If you have any concerns leave a message on my talk page. Thank you 108.2.126.127 (talk) 14:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi 108.2.126.127 (talk, Please accept my sincere apologies, I saw your edits to the Busta Rhymes article and compared it with the English Wikipedia version and one addition wasn't in the infofox there so I assumed you were a vandal, Having gone through your contributions I can see you are in fact removing vandalism not introducing it so please accept my sincere apologies, I've removed the warning from your page too, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 15:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- All good. But why did you revert the contributions? 108.2.126.127 (talk) 15:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Because your edits to Busta Rhymes and Lil Wayne weren't at EN and those were the only 2 articles I had looked at, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you getting mad? I saw the revisions to more than just those 2 things by you. 108.2.126.127 (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not mad ? I explained why I reverted you in the very first reply and then you're asking "But why did you revert the contributions?" .... I don't know how else I'm supposed to reply to that ?, Anyway have a great day 108, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Sorry 108.2.126.127 (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not mad ? I explained why I reverted you in the very first reply and then you're asking "But why did you revert the contributions?" .... I don't know how else I'm supposed to reply to that ?, Anyway have a great day 108, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why are you getting mad? I saw the revisions to more than just those 2 things by you. 108.2.126.127 (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Because your edits to Busta Rhymes and Lil Wayne weren't at EN and those were the only 2 articles I had looked at, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- All good. But why did you revert the contributions? 108.2.126.127 (talk) 15:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks!
[change source]Thank you for creating Primos when I couldn't! 2601:402:4402:61F0:C1A2:D11B:B615:1F48 (talk) 22:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome 2601 :), Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Vandalism per contrib
[change source]Is this really a good edit summary for reverting edits? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I saw you use this. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cactusisme, Thank you for reverting the vandalism it's greatly appreciated, Do you have diffs of me saying this because I don't recall ever saying this ? (I remember copypasting a previous editors edit summary about pov pushing),
- To answer the question - "Vandalism (per Davey?)" should generally be avoided as it implies you don't actually know if it is vandalism or not, I always compare with the English Wikipedia - if the edit isn't there then I'll revert but sometimes you also need to check the page history at En in case the editor has sneakily added the same edit there too,
- But yeah once is fine but I would avoid using that summary all the time, If you're not sure just don't revert, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 11:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
this--Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme That wasn't per anyone - That was an automatic edit summary provided by RW and if you look carefully you'll see it says "Vandalism (from contribs)" not "Vandalism (per contribs)" .... From and Per are two different things entirely...... –Davey2010Talk 11:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also FYI I removed "from contribs" 6 days ago although you wouldn't have known that. Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- oh alright Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 22:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also FYI I removed "from contribs" 6 days ago although you wouldn't have known that. Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Major Edit Denied?
[change source]Hello. I came here because I was expanding the Simple Wiki's Hailey's On It!, and when I was done, a Captcha came on, and I answered it. Later it said that it was denied. I went out and looked at the abuse filter log and the description was LTA 351. I don't know what that means, and I don't get why they wouldn't let me edit the page. Can you make the edit for me? Thanks-- 2601:402:4402:61F0:E2DA:D876:6031:1D80 (talk) 19:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @2601:402:4402:61F0:E2DA:D876:6031:1D80, LTA 351 is hidden so I unfortunately don't know what you did or said that resulted in your edit being prevented, You might want to consider creating an account as once you reach certain thresholds you won't keep being prevented from creating articles :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll try the edit again now that I created an account! Amary🪷 talk edit 20:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Amaryllidinae You're welcome :), The world has changed since I first created this account so you probably have a thousand more hoops than I ever did,
- I would suggesting reading en:Wikipedia:User access levels#Overview and then en:WP:AUTOCONFIRM as those are applicable to you, The more you edit and the more days you're generally on here the easier it becomes I think, You'll probably still encounter issues with an account but I would hope life would be more easier now than it was on an IP :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll try the edit again now that I created an account! Amary🪷 talk edit 20:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Inappropriate Name
[change source]Hi. A few minutes ago, a new user named "Annespankme" joined the Simple Wiki. The name is inappropriate, and since I'm not autoconfirmed yet on the Meta, I can't report. Can you? Magnolioideae (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll keep an eye but present they've not edited, I don't personally believe it's offensive enough for a block but you're more than welcome to report at WP:VIP, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Vandal Warner
[change source]Hi. I don't know why I'm asking, but by any chance do you know how to get Vandal Warner? I downloaded it, and it's not showing up in my toolbar. Magnolioideae (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Vandal IP
[change source]This IP vandal keeps on deleting the Quick Deletion template I put on on of their articles because of vandalism. I don't want to get in an edit war. What exactly do I do, and how can I be able to get this article off of Simple Wiki? Maggie🌺 talk edit 00:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Magnolioideae, If the IP reverts then I would suggest going to an admins talkpage (Special:ListUsers/sysop) and asking one of those to delete it,
- Regarding Vandal Warner - Unfortunately I've never installed it so wouldn't know sorry L(, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 00:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Help creating a page
[change source]Hello there I want to know how I can help out by creating a page without it getting deleted. 98.115.58.61 (talk) 02:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello there! I'm not Davey2010, but you may want to see WP:How to write Simple English pages, WP:What Wikipedia is not, and WP:Citing sources as they are usually big on page deletions. I hope these help :) Maggie🌺 talk edit 04:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Because sometimes I see that pages get deleted if they have too little information 98.115.58.61 (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Have fun editing ✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧ Maggie🌺 talk edit 16:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok. Because sometimes I see that pages get deleted if they have too little information 98.115.58.61 (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Archives Bot
[change source]Do you know any code to any archive bots? I always self-archive my messages and is pretty exhausting. Maggie🌺 talk edit 17:30, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Magnolioideae, See en:Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Automated_archiving - The examples below can be added to the top of your talkpage, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there Cluebot on the Simple Wikpedia? Maggie🌺 talk edit 18:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yep –Davey2010Talk 18:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*.✧ Maggie🌺 talk edit 18:43, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) There's no Cluebot, but there's Bot873, which does the same thing. VirusDontKill (talk) 19:18, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh. Does it use the MiszaBot text? Maggie🌺 talk edit 19:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. VirusDontKill (talk) 19:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you (✿^‿^) Maggie🌺 talk edit 19:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. VirusDontKill (talk) 19:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh. Does it use the MiszaBot text? Maggie🌺 talk edit 19:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yep –Davey2010Talk 18:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there Cluebot on the Simple Wikpedia? Maggie🌺 talk edit 18:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Snoop Dogg
[change source]I updated information about Snoop Dogg which came from English Wikipedia and now the article is up to date. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg 98.115.58.61 (talk) 14:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @98.115.58.61, Fantastic thank you for updating the infobox, Excellent work!, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Should the Simple English Wikipedia Infobox match the English Wikipedia infobox when it comes to occupation and genres for musicians? 159.14.184.11 (talk) 14:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also can a page be created here? Whenever people try creating pages on Wikipedia they get deleted 159.14.184.11 (talk) 14:53, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-33
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- AbuseFilter editors and maintainers can now make a CAPTCHA show if a filter matches an edit. This allows communities to quickly respond to spamming by automated bots. [4]
- Stewards can now specify if global blocks should prevent account creation. Before this change by the Trust and Safety Product Team, all global blocks would prevent account creation. This will allow stewards to reduce the unintended side-effects of global blocks on IP addresses.
Project updates
- Nominations are open on Wikitech for new members to refresh the Toolforge standards committee. The committee oversees the Toolforge Right to fork policy and Abandoned tool policy among other duties. Nominations will remain open until at least 2024-08-26.
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in West Coast Bajau (
w:bdr:
) [5]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
my edits on the 'list of Wikipedias' article and its reversion
[change source]The reason I edited the 'list of Wikipedias' article and copied extra information from the English Wikipedia's entry on that article about that topic while replacing some information on this Wikipedia edition's entry on that article with that one's, is to make this article's information more consistent with that one, while using simple Basic English. The first time I did that, @Kk.urban: reverted my edit the following day and told me that edit was too complex, so I made a similar edit six months later while simplifying certain sentences to the best of my abilities. Seeing how you also reverted my edits to that article four days and a half later, a few days ago, and told me the previous revision was simpler, why do you think that, and what do you think I can do to make the information I copy from the English Wikipedia's entry on that article simpler? PK2 (talk) 10:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- The sentences/paragraphs, images used, tables .... everything was imho over complicated and complex, that all being said I'm not exactly thrilled about List of Wikipedias#Wikipedia edition codes existing either however that's been there for over 10 years seemingly without issue,
- I'll be honest I don't have any helpful advice other than "try to keep words simple and sentences short", Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 13:23, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Tom Cruise
[change source]Hello there someone keeps adding that Tom Cruise is 5'9" when in reality he isn't 5'9" he's 5'7", I either keep removing it or changing it to 5'7" 159.14.184.11 (talk) 14:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I've removed it as it's not pertinent, Height should only be used where it's relevant (ie if they're a model), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Template
[change source]Hey there! Can I use your template for counting redirect pages? 🪐 Haumeon the Adventurer 🪐 16:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Haumeon, Thanks for asking - I would ask that you didn't purely because there's various issues with it I've yet to fix, You can always use {{User active}} and {{User humility}}, The date that's listed there doesn't work either, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 17:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, ok. Thanks. 🪐 Haumeon the Adventurer 🪐 17:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Akiva
[change source]Hello, could you wikify my article Akiva, into more simplified English?--Alon9393 (talk) 13:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Unfortunately I've tagged it for deletion as it doesn't meet our WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG guidelines, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- This Hassan Yazdani also has no notoriety and still exists--Alon9393 (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- That person is notable, please see en:Hassan Yazdani, the article here just needs updating,
- Also @Alon9393 in case you weren't aware the article won't be deleted for another 7 days yet so you're more than welcome to continue sourcing it and or heading to the RFD and stating why it should be kept, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- This Hassan Yazdani also has no notoriety and still exists--Alon9393 (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-34
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
- Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [6]
- Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the
categories
property ofmw.title objects
. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [7][8]
Bugs status
- Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with
Talk:WP:
so that their titles start withWikipedia talk:
), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388. - Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.
Learn more
- The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
- The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.
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MediaWiki message delivery 00:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
How do you use scripts? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme what do you mean how do I use scripts ?, Do you mean how do you install them ?... –Davey2010Talk 12:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010 Yeah Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well you've been installing them at your common.js page so not sure why you're asking me for....., Have a great day. –Davey2010Talk 12:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- But it does not seem to be working. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- The redlinked ones at User:Davey2010/script wont work because they've not been installed here, bluelinked ones work though, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, okay Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Cactusisme Sorry, I thought you had the scripts installed but have just seen you've added Ohconfucius instead which is why they don't work - I've updated User:Davey2010/script which now tells you how to install them, Sorry for removing your post I was confused as how you wanted them installed as assumed you already did have them installed but I see not so apologies for that,
- Oh, okay Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- The redlinked ones at User:Davey2010/script wont work because they've not been installed here, bluelinked ones work though, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- But it does not seem to be working. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the update page make sense ? if not I can edit it ?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will take a look later,tl thanks Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 22:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme okay no worries, if you have trouble understanding it or have trouble installing them please let me know, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 22:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I am at school right now so maybe like in 6 hours Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 23:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- sure no worries, thanks –Davey2010Talk 00:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I am at school right now so maybe like in 6 hours Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 23:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme okay no worries, if you have trouble understanding it or have trouble installing them please let me know, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 22:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- It way better now. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme Brilliant thanks for the feedback :) and again i sincerely apologise for being rude to you and for deleting your post, Happy editing, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 11:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cactusisme Brilliant thanks for the feedback :) and again i sincerely apologise for being rude to you and for deleting your post, Happy editing, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 11:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will take a look later,tl thanks Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 22:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the update page make sense ? if not I can edit it ?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
[change source]Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make helpful changes to Wikipedia. However, some of your changes, like those to "Talk:Main Page", did not seem to be helpful and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try out changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 20:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 There is nothing "unhelpful" about my comment, I'm entitled to my comment as is anyone else on this project. Please don't abuse rollback either. Thank you. –Davey2010Talk 21:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-35
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Administrators can now test the temporary accounts feature on test2wiki. This was done to allow cross-wiki testing of temporary accounts, for when temporary accounts switch between projects. The feature was enabled on testwiki a few weeks ago. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Temporary Accounts is a project to create a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors which are no longer made public. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
- Later this week, editors at wikis that use FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed. This change makes the system more consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface. [9]
Bugs status
- Editors who use the 2010 wikitext editor, and use the Character Insert buttons, will no longer experience problems with the buttons adding content into the edit-summary instead of the edit-window. You can read more about that, and 26 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- Please review and vote on Focus Areas, which are groups of wishes that share a problem. Focus Areas were created for the newly reopened Community Wishlist, which is now open year-round for submissions. The first batch of focus areas are specific to moderator workflows, around welcoming newcomers, minimizing repetitive tasks, and prioritizing tasks. Once volunteers have reviewed and voted on focus areas, the Foundation will then review and select focus areas for prioritization.
- Do you have a project and are willing to provide a three (3) month mentorship for an intern? Outreachy is a twice a year program for people to participate in a paid internship that will start in December 2024 and end in early March 2025, and they need mentors and projects to work on. Projects can be focused on coding or non-coding (design, documentation, translation, research). See the Outreachy page for more details, and a list of past projects since 2013.
Learn more
- If you're curious about the product and technology improvements made by the Wikimedia Foundation last year, read this recent highlights summary on Diff.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Community Configuration - Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together (55 mins) - about the Community Configuration project.
- Future of MediaWiki. A sustainable platform to support a collaborative user base and billions of page views (30 mins) - an overview for both technical and non technical audiences, covering some of the challenges and open questions, related to the platform evolution, stewardship and developer experiences research.
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Spongebob cast members
[change source]Thanks for fixing List of SpongeBob SquarePants cast members. I withdrew the RfD and closed it. 2607:F140:6000:802A:543D:8FF4:E1DA:2530 (talk) 21:58, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @2607:F140:6000:802A:543D:8FF4:E1DA:2530, No worries, Thank you for nominating it for deletion which in turn made me spot the rather embarrassing error I made, Had it not been for you I wouldn't have been none the wiser so thank you for bringing it to my attention! :), Happy editing, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 22:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Check your Agar.io
[change source]i am added This notice "Wait" to speedy undelete it Ігнат Лостюк (talk) 16:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Noting for historical purposes I've replied at Talk:Agar.io as well as the users talkpage) –Davey2010Talk 18:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Type locality
[change source]It may be relevant that my draft User:Darkfrog24/Type locality (biology) is now the article Type (biology). Feel free to wreak your arts on it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I think I found that out eventually, You're more than welcome to QD it yourself but I have no issues with it sitting there, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 10:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Flood flag
[change source]Hi there, thanks for removing the short description templates. How many pages do you have left to go through? It's flooding the recent changes and I thought I'd give you the flood flag if you still have more left. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Fehufanga, Oops sorry I had forgot about that - There's a time limit so although I'm done WPC is still sending the edits, I'd say there's anywhere between 30-60 articles left to save, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose the remaining ones are fine to do without the flood flag then. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay no worries, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-36
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Editors and volunteer developers interested in data visualisation can now test the new software for charts. Its early version is available on beta Commons and beta Wikipedia. This is an important milestone before making charts available on regular wikis. You can read more about this project update and help to test the charts.
Feature news
- Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word
__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__
to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [10] - Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [11]
- Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.
Project updates
- A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.
Learn more
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Charts, the successor of Graphs - A secure and extensible tool for data visualization (25 mins) – about the above-mentioned Charts project.
- State of Language Technology and Onboarding at Wikimedia (90 mins) – about some of the language tools that support Wikimedia sites, such as Content/Section Translation, MinT, and LanguageConverter; also the current state and future of languages onboarding. [12]
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MediaWiki message delivery 01:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
"Anachronistic" Categories
[change source]Hello @Davey2010, I need a secondary opinion about an issue. User:Gotitbro recently removed many categories from a number of articles, citing them as anachronistic in the edit summaries. Could you review these diffs and let me know if you find these categories problematic? I’d appreciate it. I don’t think User:Gotitbro wants to follow my advice and build consensus on the talk pages, and my continued reverts would only lead to edit warring. Here are the diffs: (Special:Diff/9750197, Special:Diff/9750186, Special:Diff/9750208, Special:Diff/9750209, Special:Diff/9750246, Special:Diff/9750250, Special:Diff/9750253, Special:Diff/9750257, Special:Diff/9750263, Special:Diff/9750276, Special:Diff/9750289 (Somehow Category:Monarchs of Afghanistan was left alone, but Pakistani monarchs was removed as "anachronistic"), Special:Diff/9750295, there are still lots more, as they spent a significant amount of time removing my contributions. – Cyber.Eyes.2005Talk 14:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Simple Talk would have been a better avenue rather than the canvassing a single editor. I have continued this discussion there. Gotitbro (talk) 14:34, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cyber.Eyes.2005, Personally I would say no they're fine but maybe there's something here I'm missing or unaware of so agreeing with @Gotitbro it would be best to seek opinions on the Simple talkpage from people who know more about this subject than I do, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 15:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @Gotitbro for going to the talkpage, most editors would have a slanging match here and not do much else so I certainly appreciate you going to the talkpage, getting the ball rolling and trying to find a resolution so thank you again for doing that, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 15:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cyber.Eyes.2005, Personally I would say no they're fine but maybe there's something here I'm missing or unaware of so agreeing with @Gotitbro it would be best to seek opinions on the Simple talkpage from people who know more about this subject than I do, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 15:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-37
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [13][14]
- Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions
entity:getSitelink()
andmw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid)
will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [15]
Project updates
- Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [16]
- Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new
MOS
namespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning withMOS:
(usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language codemos
). [17]
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MediaWiki message delivery 18:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Templates with your name on them
[change source]Hi, Davey. I noticed that there are around a dozen or so templates in template space that start with your user name. You can see them at https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Davey2010&namespace=10.
I don't think we should have user-specific templates in the regular template space. If you still want these, could they be moved to your userspace? -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Auntof6, Many thanks for making me aware of these, Personally I don't see a problem with a few templates being in templatespace however I do agree as it stood it all looked messy (probably didn't need to create the doc pages tbh) but anyway I've moved them all over for now, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 12:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, Have a great day, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 13:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. -- Auntof6 (talk) 13:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Asking
[change source]Hello. I was wondering if my anger later in the Simple Talk thread "Anachronism" would ruin or spoil my track record and make administrators deny me userrights. Warm Regards, - 🪐●Haumeon 19:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Haumeon, I've said a lot worse and I still have userrights so you're fine! :), You're only judged on the relevent edits you make (so if you're applying for rollback you'll be judged on undo edits etc etc), You're entitled to your opinions and there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate now and again, You've not said anything bad in my book so you have nothing to worry about, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's comforting. Thanks! Have a great day!
- Also, while we are talking about rollback, do you think my articles are good enough quality for patroller if I make enough of them? 🪐●Haumeon 19:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon I would say they're okay, Regarding Contact binary star thought; Remember we use Related pages here not See also, Also you need to remove Ivanova2013 from the reference section as this reference isn't used, Thanks and have a great day too, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Haumeon: Just keep in mind that Davey would not be the one making the call about this stuff, since he's not an admin. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know. I was just checking if I was going on the right path or not. 🪐●Haumeon 20:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I would say yes you are but yeah it's not down to me and admins may have different opinions, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. They might say I don't have enough experience (I'm only a month old) or that I'm not trusted enough. 🪐●Haumeon 20:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly, Anyway happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. They might say I don't have enough experience (I'm only a month old) or that I'm not trusted enough. 🪐●Haumeon 20:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I would say yes you are but yeah it's not down to me and admins may have different opinions, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know. I was just checking if I was going on the right path or not. 🪐●Haumeon 20:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-38
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Improvements and Maintenance
- Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
- The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [18]
- References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [19]
- It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [20]
- Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes
mw-message-box
need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newercdx-message
group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [21]
Technical project updates
- Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [22]
Tech in depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.
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MediaWiki message delivery 00:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Closing RFD Requests
[change source]Hi, I'm Magniolioideae (just that I lost the password for it). Are non-admins able to close RFD requests when the week is up? Astera🪻 talk edits 15:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Asteradeae, only admins should close RfD requests, even in keep cases. There isn't much harm in closing RfDs say when an admin has forgot to close it after quick deletion, but determining the consensus on RfD should be up to administrators to deal with. The most recent discussion about this was at Wikipedia:Simple talk/Archive 150#Bring back WP:NAC. --Ferien (talk) 16:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferien Okay. Thank you. Astera🪻 talk edits 16:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Asteradeae, Keeps/Deletes should always be closed by admins however regarding the closure of RFDs where the admin has forgotten; Truth be told I don't know, @Ferien says it's fine, Other admins say it isn't,
- The exact same is applied with warning vandals, some admins block on sight, others expect you to go through the warning cycle for each vandal after a block,
- There's so much conflicting information on here all thanks to... yeah I'll leave it there, Sorry I couldn't be of any more help, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 17:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferien Okay. Thank you. Astera🪻 talk edits 16:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
RedWarn
[change source]You use redwarn too? Is there an error message saying "Cannot load rule database" for you? (This is Haumeon, I changed my name) ☀ SolarX☀ 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Haumeon, I do and nope no error messages here, You may of installed something correctly somewhere?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I installed RedWarn through user scripts. ☀ SolarX☀ 19:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon Ah yeah you can't install Redwarn that way unfortunately, You would need to create all of the relevant pages here which isn't easy tbh, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, ok.
- Also regarding what happened two weeks ago, I heard you were removing shortdesc from many pages, enough to make an admin want to give you a flood flag. How did you find all those pages? I checked on Wikiproject Check Wikipedia and found nothing regarding this. ☀ SolarX☀ 19:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, They're at Category:Pages with short description, They're not on WPC and tbh you don't need WPC to remove it - I only use it because if I open a ton of Chrome tabs at once it slows my laptop down whereas tons of WPC windows doesn't affect it much, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Haumeon Ah yeah you can't install Redwarn that way unfortunately, You would need to create all of the relevant pages here which isn't easy tbh, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I installed RedWarn through user scripts. ☀ SolarX☀ 19:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Heights
[change source]People keep adding heights to people who aren't athletes or models 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know I keep routinely removing these too, Unfortunately I'm not an admin so limited as to what I can do, If you're reverting the same person then report them to WP:VIP, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm removing it also 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I've just gone and blocked an IP range that has done this to many articles, that should counter the problem, but there seem to be a few different IPs doing it. I've reverted the ones that were easy to rollback all of, going to try and have a look at the articles properly later tonight. --Ferien (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Heights should be mentioned if the person is either an athlete or a model otherwise it shouldn't be mentioned 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your help @Ferien it's always greatly appreciated :),
- 98 - You're correct - Of course height may be included if there's notability around their height (which in this case there isn't) but yeah If they're not a model or athlete then no - heights don't need to be used, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Heights should be mentioned if the person is either an athlete or a model otherwise it shouldn't be mentioned 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I've just gone and blocked an IP range that has done this to many articles, that should counter the problem, but there seem to be a few different IPs doing it. I've reverted the ones that were easy to rollback all of, going to try and have a look at the articles properly later tonight. --Ferien (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm removing it also 98.115.58.61 (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-39
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
- The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
- It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within
<syntaxhighlight>
tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax{{…}}
are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [23] - Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [24][25]
- View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.
In depth
- The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Just a note, I nominated you for adminship. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cactusisme, I wished you had asked me first because I have no desire to be an admin, I much prefer being a normal editor, Thanks though I appreciate the kind gesture, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:57, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
range for VIP report
[change source]Hi Davey, I looked at the IP range that would cover the IPs who've kept making the disruptive edits on Bus, Truck etc. The smallest range to contain all the IP addresses appears to be a /38 range which is too wide for a IPv6 block. If the issue gets worse, please feel free to request semi-protection for the pages in question. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 16:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Ferien, Ah okay no worries, Yeah I certainly wouldn't want random people being caught up in the block, I just spotted the similarities at the last minute so chucked it in there just in case lol, Thanks for your message, Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 16:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
observation
[change source]Not that it's necessarily my business, but I noticed in dealing with the QD request on your userpage: the top template on RfDs is just {{archive top}} substituted, with the corresponding {{archive bottom}}, if that's helpful at all :) --Ferien (talk) 22:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ferien, Oh ..... okay thank you for letting me know lol, Because it uses the "did/did not succeed" category I just assumed it was some sort of template or script that did this, Never once thought it was the atop/abot templates so thank you so much!,
- Alls I need to do now is buy a keyboard with the | symbol and then I can finally get rid of the box altogether :), Thanks again for letting know about the rfd template much appreciated :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem :) The category comes from the deleted/kept templates, btw --Ferien (talk) 06:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ooo never knew that either :O, Thanks for letting me know that's very kind of you :), Also @Ferien could I be a pain and ask that User talk:Davey2010/Discography be moved back to User talk:Davey2010/DiscographyCodes please? (the redirect can be deleted),
- Thanks again for the insightful knowledge :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done, happy to help :) --Ferien (talk) 17:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ferien You my friend are amazing thank you again :), Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 17:03, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done, happy to help :) --Ferien (talk) 17:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem :) The category comes from the deleted/kept templates, btw --Ferien (talk) 06:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-40
[change source]Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Readers of 42 more wikis can now use Dark Mode. If the option is not yet available for logged-out users of your wiki, this is likely because many templates do not yet display well in Dark Mode. Please use the night-mode-checker tool if you are interested in helping to reduce the number of issues. The recommendations page provides guidance on this. Dark Mode is enabled on additional wikis once per month.
- Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor as their default can access features from the 2017 wikitext editor by adding
?veaction=editsource
to the URL. If you would like to enable the 2017 wikitext editor as your default, it can be set in your preferences. [26] - For logged-out readers using the Vector 2022 skin, the "donate" link has been moved from a collapsible menu next to the content area into a more prominent top menu, next to "Create an account". This restores the link to the level of prominence it had in the Vector 2010 skin. Learn more about the changes related to donor experiences. [27]
- The CampaignEvents extension provides tools for organizers to more easily manage events, communicate with participants, and promote their events on the wikis. The extension has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Swahili Wikipedia, and Meta-Wiki. Chinese Wikipedia has decided to enable the extension, and discussions on the extension are in progress on Spanish Wikipedia and on Wikidata. To learn how to enable the extension on your wiki, you can visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-Wiki.
- View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- Developers with an account on Wikitech-wiki should check if any action is required for their accounts. The wiki is being changed to use the