User talk:CerroFerro

I just declined your 3O request, as there is no discussion yet on the talk page. I just wanted to note that the one of the golden standards of discussion on Wikipedia is the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. When one editor reverts, it's best practice for the initial bold editor to start a discussion. Feel free to re-request a third opinion after discussion on the talk page is stuck. Femke (talk) 18:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Provide me with the message you reverted from thrid opinion request. Just post it here. I'll post that on the talk page. CerroFerro (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. I just relocated it. --CerroFerro (talk) 19:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If the other editor does not respond (be sure to ping them), consider the advice given at WP:DISCFAIL. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:23, 6 June 2022 (UTC) (another 3O volunteer)[reply]

No need for that, Transporterman: this article is closely guarded. Editors User:Modernist and User:Coldcreation are also monitoring the page.--CerroFerro (talk) 19:35, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, good day from this end... I have added uncategorized tag on the said article. Do well to add some categories to it. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 22:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @CerroFerro: How goes it? I reviewed the article you updated. Great work!! I wonder if you could return and fix the sources section by putting in proper full cites. The way to do it create the citation and then remove the ref tags, leaving the bare citation. Please take a look at WP:REFB, its a wee tutorial that shows you how to create a citation. You basically and copy a paste and it creates it for you, from cite button at the top here. Hope that helps. I'll fire up a bare url tag until their fixed. Its a great article and would be a shame not see proper citations. scope_creep^Talk 13:24, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Scope Creep: In future, I shall use the format you suggested. Best Wishes. --CerroFerro (talk) 19:43, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought...I attempted to use the formatting you suggested. I find the whole process clumsy and error prone. The one I've used traditionally provides all the source information and more that the wp:REFB offers, without eliciting error notices, with perfect clarity. What say you? --CerroFerro (talk) 20:20, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Scope creep: The Wp:REFB offered the template format in this form: {{cite news}}: Empty citation (help).

I found it difficult to insert the data. I reformatted it this way.

{{cite news}}: Empty citation (help).

Still getting errors. Not sure why.--CerroFerro (talk) 17:34, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is about 14 citation types or maybe more. Take a look at WP:CS. It has the layouts for you. The cite button in the editor window above is how you access it. It opens a dialog and you fill it in. There is one for news, one for books, one for web, one for citing thesis, one for citing AV recording and so on, different depending on what you need to cite. I'm not seeing any errors. scope_creep^Talk 17:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CerroFerro,

Thank you for creating The Hours After Noon.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Thanks for this article! I'm tagging a too long plot, it's poorly written IMHO and far too lengthy. This probably meets WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK, though I'm unsure how long the Ditsky one is.

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VickKiang (talk) 09:42, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:VickKiang: When I consider a Plot summary to be overly long, I rewrite the section myself, then submit it to the editor who wrote the original section for his/her consideration. See User talk:Οἶδα for a recent example of this approach. --CerroFerro (talk) 18:04, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your replies. Just pointing out that per MOS:PLOT, WP:Manual of Style/Film § Plot suggests that plot summaries for feature films be between 400 and 700 words. Your plot overview is unfortunately 1100+ words, which is definitely a bit too long. I know this isn't for books specifically but still is applicable. Based on the edit history, I see another editor have tried to rv the long plot additions. Again, this is a comparatively minor suggestion that won't have many impacts (I'm only unsure whether the second book ref is long enough) unless this article is going to be a B or GA class one. VickKiang (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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For The Garden (short story), as I can't access the offline refs while reviewing, if it is possible could you tell me how long is the Ditsky 1986 ref? Many thanks! VickKiang 22:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CerroFerro,

Thank you for creating The Garden (short story).

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Thanks for the article! On your talk page, I've opened a new discussion on how long the Ditsky ref is, as there are currently just two refs, with the Hibbard ref being quite long, but I'm unsure how long the Ditsky ref is. If it turns out that the Ditsky ref is one page or more of non-trivial coverage, I'll remove this notability tag and mark this as reviewed, as two in-depth, significant, reliable sources are usually needed to pass WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK.

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VickKiang 22:18, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vicki - DO NOT continue this discussion on my Talk page. Go to the Talk Page for The Garden (short story). --CerroFerro (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is just automatic because of the Page Curation tool. Apologies if this has left you frustrated, I will not notify you here for future reviews. VickKiang 21:22, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Selfstudier (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are currently in breach of the 1R rule for these articles at Farha (film). Since you have not in the past received an awareness notification, I have filed one above. Edit warring against consensus is not a good look.Selfstudier (talk) 18:21, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict per se, and I think you know it. The question is whether a simple citation from the WSWS can be deleted for unstated reasons based on "consensus". This is a fundamental question of principle, not opinion.

If you wish to find a forum that believes that Trump won the 2020 presidential election, no doubt you can find "consensus" on the matter.

Joanne Laurier of WSWS has in effect stated that "2 + 2 = 4" The quote she cited in her article has been retained as a suitable box quote, but the Wikipedia Establishment refuses to allow her to be the messenger for a statement from film director Darin J. Sallam. Instead, you defend deleting the ref and replacing it with a ref that has a history of red-baiting and anti-communism during the McCarthyite witch hunts. The Hollywood Reporter. You falsely claimed that the WSWS was "additional" - you know it was not.

As usual, the tactic is to issue a threat that an editor is in "breach", and liable to being censored i.e., blocked from Wikipedia. Utterly unprincipled and, I regret to say, rather cowardly. CerroFerro (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are now in clear breach of 1R after awareness notification and on the verge of breaking 3R, kindly self revert immediately. Selfstudier (talk) 19:02, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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For those who are following this dispute, note that the imperative for the Wikipedia Establishment is deter editors from citing the World Socialist Web Site on this online encyclopedia. That is paramount. --CerroFerro (talk) 19:25, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Heavy Water (talk) 19:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CerroFerro, of all 44,767,420 registered users of Wikipedia, you chose Bobfrombrockley for assistance in a dispute about the page Farha (film). Which criterion made you choose this specific user? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:17, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Monitoring by posts for violations? Pleasant and fulfilling occupation for some social types. Good work.

As to "canvassing" allow me to quote: "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it be done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus."

There you go. Now proceed with some other project. And by the way, the issue that arose regarding the suppression of the Joanne Laurier ref has been settled. From this point forward, its about educating Wiki editors and contributors as to the implications of this political censorship and to establish a degree of consensus, but not conformity.--CerroFerro (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As you haven't actually answered my question, I'll state my assumption and you'd be welcome to correct it if it's incorrect. You have notified Bobfrombrockley because you are upset about the removal of a politcally left website citation, and you have messaged someone advertising their far-left positions on their userpage to gain politically motivated support for your position. This is canvassing. If you continue doing this, you may be blocked from editing to prevent further disruption. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:39, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are engaging in a type of Wikipedia:Harassment, known as "wikihounding."

And by the way, you don't have a chance in Hell of blocking me for my "politics" - you have no evidence of what my so-called politics may be. If you consider me to be a terrorist, kindly contact the FBI. Now get lost.--CerroFerro (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating the article Falk Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CerroFerro, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

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Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! – Joe (talk) 08:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Joe. I shall do my utmost to meet the high standards for content and fidelity to Wiki Rules with which you have entrusted me, my Userpage notwithstanding.--CerroFerro (talk) 16:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Not sure why you reverted my edit completely. I tried to fix the article per manual of style. Thedarkknightli (talk) 18:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies: my had mistaken your material for another edit. CerroFerro (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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