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Dear Sir or Madam, I am studying about this person, could you please recommend me a book about his family? Kind regards Khan Ahmad 2A02:3032:2E0:8F6:984C:3FCA:E924:E8CE (talk) 03:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I would recommend the The Cambridge History of Iran, volume 7. Bests. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BaharatlıCheetos2.0

Look at their works on TR Wikipedia and other wikis[1][2]; e.g. this gem. Reminds me of Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Tirgil34; same nationalistic quest, same pseudo-history pov-pusher. Keep watching the English version of targeted articles in TR Wikipedia because they could bring such stuff to EN Wikipedia in the near future. Just wanted to notify you about it. Thanks for your contributions. Regards --Mann Mann (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Mann Mann. This might actually be the best evidence so far. I'll take it to the SPI and ANI threads. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding: @Mann Mann, this evidence is very illuminating. @HistoryofIran, I remember noticing you reverting multiple edits that sought to portray the Safavid dynasty as non-Iranian within the past few months. I wondered what the context was for that; now I know how it fits into a nationalistic tug-of-war over historiography. Huntthetroll (talk) 22:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, all thanks to the historical negationism created by the Soviets. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Anushawan, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 11:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kowal2701. Thanks for asking, but I have to unfortunately decline as my hands are pretty much full right now. I'll keep an eye on the page though! HistoryofIran (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, colleague. I would like to ask you how I can get this article - [3]? With respect. Smpad (talk) 21:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't remember if you had access to Brill or not? [4]. I'll post a download link here just in a bit for you. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go https://easyupload.io/qxcwas Please be aware "This is an attempt to interpret the origin of the well-known South Caspian Iranian toponym, Lankarān". There doesn't seem to be any consensus for its origins yet. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, colleague! No, I don't have access to Brill. With respect. Smpad (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A user keeps reverting my edits of Asoristan edit, despite my edits have been stated in all given references and yet he gives no explanation but blames me for Vandalism. Can you please fix it. Thank you. Jackhanma69 (talk) 01:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you might know me from the Adhur Narseh page.

Sorry for the bad source, but I think I have a better source now. The relief is included in the book شرح مصور نقش رستم فارس and the book is available online.

CaspianUser (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CaspianUser. Trust me, I want a image added as much as you. But we need a WP:RS for that. And it needs to be verifiable (WP:RS). HistoryofIran (talk) 21:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I want to talk about Zazaki, which is in danger of extinction. The number of people who speak it is now less than 100,000, and the Zaza identity is at risk. You might not live in Turkey and may not understand the situation. As you know, all minorities in Turkey are becoming Turkish, and this is happening to the Zaza kurds, those who no longer identify as Kurdish. Many Zaza from Elazig, Erzincan, and Urfa now consider themselves Turks This is why Turks are trying hard to separate us, making it easier to assimilate them into Turkish culture.

I'm saying this because the Zazaki language page on Wikipedia is full of misinformation and incorrect information. I don't claim that Zazaki is a dialect of Kurdish, but it is similar to Gorani, as we all know. Genetically, Zaza people are the same as Kurds, but Wikipedia says otherwise. I hope you can do some research and fix the Zaza page. Even the maps are wrong. I hope you understand and can help save an zaza people, as I can't do anything.

Hope you have a great day ❤️ Raykoosi0 (talk) 00:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please read WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. If you have concerns take it to the talk page of the article, where you do it through the policies of this website, and not your personal opinion. While we're at it, please also read WP:RS, WP:OR, WP:VER, WP:SYNTH, WP:CONSENSUS - those are good starters. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More: WP:PSTS, WP:SCHOLARSHIP and WP:UNDUE. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, are you a robot or a human? I’m talking in human language, so stop switching to robot mode. I don’t use Wikipedia, and I just made an account to fix that. My second edit about the Rawwadids was because I studied a book and tried to make Wikipedia match that book. I don’t know if that’s true or not I haven’t done research. But for Zazaki, all the information is incorrect, and you should fix it since you know more English than me. I’m not a native English speaker. I’m just asking you to help us and correct it, as you seem more professional with Wikipedia. Raykoosi0 (talk) 01:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So much for engaging in WP:GF despite your conduct, including calling me a "racist". If you consider that to be "robot mode" then you should seriously consider if this website is for you. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article Guarded Domains of Iran you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Guarded Domains of Iran and Talk:Guarded Domains of Iran/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of That Tired Tarantula -- That Tired Tarantula (talk) 00:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Zand military officers has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 22:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had to correct some edits by a user named shemsi effendi that were somewhat similar in character. You might want to take a peek. Insanityclown1 (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notice. It seems to be them, ill file an SPI when im home. HistoryofIran (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i was wondering if it's more of an improvement if we can make Shabankara and Atabeg of Great Lorestan (Hazaraspids) into separate pages, one of Shabankara and atabeg of Great Luristan state/kingdom, and another one about the Shabankara Tribe and dynasty (recorded asFazlawayhids in some sources).^[1] Just like how there is a page Sasanian Empire and Sasanian Dynasty.

Jackhanma69 (talk) 22:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the Shabankara part mentioned in that citation? Am I missing something here? There should only be an article of the dynasty if its WP:NOTABLE (there would be like what, 2 lines in that article? We barely have any info), which currently doesn't seem to be the case. Also, I just removed sourced info [5]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The citations are within their own articles, the Shabankara as stated in encyclopedia of Islam as name of Kurdish tribe and their country. And their realm is recorded to have dominated the lands between Fars and Kirman, and their capital was ig. On the other hand, the Hazaraspids (Fazlavi Dynasty)[1] was a royal dynasty that ruled over a kingdom that was called Lor-e Bozorg/lur-i Buzurg.[2] Jackhanma69 (talk) 01:13, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article Guarded Domains of Iran you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Guarded Domains of Iran for comments about the article, and Talk:Guarded Domains of Iran/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of That Tired Tarantula -- That Tired Tarantula (talk) 23:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

to the left or to the right, depending on which wisdom teeth got removed. Or maybe you're now bottom-heavy or top-heavy? Joking aside, I wish you good luck with the recovery, and I hope you get to enjoy some ice cream. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 22:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Remsense诉 22:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, wisdom teeth? I had mine cut out back in the early '80s. Take it easy, man. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you everyone, its really nice of you. Got both sides to the left removed. Going to get the remaining two removed probably in a few months. It’s impressive that during the human evolution now useless stuff such as the wisdom teeth still remains. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i have researched and read Academics & historians and scholars regarding the origin of Samanids, and I've found plenty of sources and I'd like to ask if I could discuss this topic with you since you seem to edit alot of stuff about Iranian history, some examples of these scholars could be Richard folts or even one of the most leading scholars of Iranian studies of today like Iraj Bashiri, all love my Persian brother ❤️🙏🏻 Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 00:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My brother i am tired of waiting and I guess I'm gonna add it, but I don't think you'll see a problem with it considering that the scholarly concensus I'll prove accepts they were tajik, all love ❤️ Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but you waited half a day where I wasnt even active..? Moreover, the Tajiks of today didnt exist back then. Please read User:HistoryofIran/Sources HistoryofIran (talk) 19:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i apologize for not waiting alot, But you can't just delete it as Many scholars have identified it as The first tajik state, Yes it was synonymous to Persian but they are the same identity as tajiks today, you can not just delete the words of these prestigious scholars, the tajik identity was formed when the samanids existed and therefore it should be added as tajik/persian , no hate I am just trying to add extra information ❤️ Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

if you would like, we can discuss this somewhere else since Wikipedia is quite hard since I get no notification, All love my friend, And I can show you all the sources that I have found regarding the tajik origin, is that okay with you? Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:RS in the link contradicts you. Im not going on Telegram/Instagram with a stranger. Take it to the talk page of Samanids and reach WP:CONSENSUS, thanks. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What? How does it contradict me, I quite literally have the images of the sources and I read what it said? Go to the website link of The iraj bashiri source, and look at the first page "preface", as for Richard folts go to the first page introduction "who are the tajiks?" Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I respect that, All I wanted to do was discuss it a bit quicker since its a bit hard for me to do it here it lags alot, Hopefully you answer quick 🙏🏻❤️ Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by “how does it contradict me” Are you implying they say something else? Im referring to the sources about the word “Tajik” at the bottom of the link. If you have concerns, please take it to the talk page of the article and reach WP:CONSENSUS. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? Richard foltz quite literally stated it was identifiably The " first tajik state ", and the other source from irij bashiri is saying That The tajiks first royal house is the samanids, How does that contradict me my friend, please brother, I really don't understand this and it's a little frustrating since it took me a while to edit stuff. Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, are these two your accounts? [6][7]

If so then you need to make it clear on the User pages. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:27, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i only have one account, someone wanted me to help out with a citation and that was it 👍🏻 Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But you did not merely help out with a citation, you more or less edit warred by adding Sogdian again. Your first comment to me is more or less the same as one of the users, but nicer. Sorry, but there is something youre not telling, and thus I am filing an SPI. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because that is what the edit was? I apologize but all I intended to do was to help out his citations and I thought the sources were strong and therefore thought it was true, I won't make the same mistake again, however for the Samanids there are alot of sources that claim they were tajik, that's why I've edited it, what would you say I send you more prestigious sources? Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

alright man, I will just say one more thing and wait a week for your response,

There is an UNESCO publishing that says they were Tajik,

Chuvash university publishing,

some soviet professors,

pskov university

moscow university

university of Montana,

hungarian academy of sciences,

hanyang university

university of California press

kent state university

Oxford university,

And many more, That is why I wanted to discuss somewhere else, because I want to share these sources with you before actually editing something Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 11:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-read my comment. Per the policies of this website, this is not something that gets discussed on external sites or my talk page. HistoryofIran (talk) 11:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tajiks were not the Tajiks of today per the sources in the link, thats a Soviet era creation. And you cant just call sources you agree with for “leading scholars of Iranian studies”. Foltz and Bashiri are good, but they are certainly not leading scholars in Iranian studies, thats people like Bosworth that has that honor. Moreover, im 99% sure Foltz say stuff about this you have not noticed, I am getting deja vu hearing his name in this context. You also need to properly cite the sources you are talking about (WP:VER, WP:CITE), we cant use obscure random name drops for anything. Please dont continue this discussion on my talk page, I wont reply. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I give up you wasted my time trying to remove the opinions of actual scholars and Iraj bashiri is literally one of the leading scholars of Iranian history if you go to his wiki page?, I was gonna add alot more but you ruined it and removed it, I already stated all of the sources for you to read but no you're too scared to discuss it with a stranger for some reason?

All you do is make your own assertion with no evidence, they quite literally Said the ' TAJIK PEOPLE " As in the ethnic group if you actually read the sources

It is the same as the tajik ethnic group today, they were literally FROM " BALKH ", they are not Persians as in the western ones but they are eastern Persians (tajiks) which is accepted by everyone, sadly i cant change it because you will either ban me , and I can not show you it either because you're too scared to discuss it with me somewhere else there I can show you the images of these sources

Bye Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for showing the real you, I knew that random niceness was not real. If you’re interested in actually learning about the word “Tajik”, Iranica goes into lots of details [8]. You could always also read the link I posted, which you consider “my own assertion with no evidence”. You seem to “know” a lot about me, I’ll file an SPI when I’m home tomorrow. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i was nice at first but you and you removed all the work I did and didn't even try to talk to me about it and ask me about the other sources I told you about which I was soon about to add, Ofcourse I won't be kind if you remove everything and don't even want to discuss it somewhere there I can show you more information lol what? Ofcourse I know you you edit alot of stuff in wiki and my friend has told me All you do is be biased towards tajiks and remove all work, I won't be doing any more stuff so be happy since I don't want to risk being banned , you can keep on misinforming people with your lies and rejecting scholars, Don't respond to me again since you said you wouldn't? Tajik Sohrabs (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for ruining it for you by posting WP:RS and policies you dont like. Here, you can have the last response, go ham with the attacks and aspersions, not like WP:NPA and WP:ASPERSIONS is a thing. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in the process of writing the MĀDAYĀN Ī HAZĀR DĀDESTĀN. In your opinion, should I explain individual chapters or avoid listing each chapter individually and simply mention chapter topics in paragraph form? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kansas Bear. I’ll check later today. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm I’m not actually sure. I guess I would do the latter? HistoryofIran (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Thanks for the input! --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi, there's a user in sorani Kurdish Wikipedia that keeps adding these references ([1] [2] [3] [4]) as a source of saying sasanian Empire was of "Kurdish origin". However none of these look like reliable sources, can you help me by explaining to me how these don't count as WP:RS so I can stop him/them from further vandalizing the page. Thank you. Jackhanma69 (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I can't help. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HistoryofIran, and my apologies for bothering you about what might be a trivial matter in the broader context of... well pretty much everything you've wrote about. Could you possibly look at Draft:Esmaeel Afifeh? Peter in Australia aka Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Shirt58:, I gotta admit, this is a bit problematic when I unfortunately can't read the Persian script, I could probably find much more through that. From what I've found, Esmaeel Afifeh is the producer of Jeyran (TV series), has an Imdb page [9] where it shows several tv series he has produced. He appears in some Persian ebooks [10], but I can't discern their quality. His biography is in the Iranian streaming service Namava [11] (which I've added in the Draft) and he is also mentioned in the Mehr News Agency [12]. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HOI, I came across your recent interaction with Qehraman63. Just wanted to inform you that this account is a WP:DUCK of HEVAL, which you don't appear to have noticed yet. This less-than-a-day-old account may be a good example to study before reporting potential future socks of this LTA. Cheers, Aintabli (talk) 00:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]