User talk:Marrante

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Marrante! I am Reconsider the static and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Reconsider ! 01:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Germany

Hi! I saw your good work at Eckhard Stratmann-Mertens‎‎ and thought you might be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany. If so, just add your name at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Members --Boson (talk) 12:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliment. I actually thought I had been tagged for a future deletion when I saw the flags on this article. I'm not much of a joiner, but I did look at the page and worked on the Geschwister Scholl article a bit. Being that there is already a page for her and her brother, I'm not really sure what the benefit is of having a sibling page, except to perhaps have a wikilink for other pages to use. Marrante (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the living-people flag is a bit intimidating if you are not used to it, but malicious edits can be a bit of a problem. One purpose of the project templates is to categorize the article and thus alert other project members to articles they may be able to improve (and help protect from vandalism). As regards the Geschwister Scholl articles, I would also imagine one purpose is to provide a sort of "soft redirect" for readers. It is also listed for expansion, so I suppose someone in the project thought it would be a good idea to have details of what they did together in that article. If more details about their activities were added, I suppose it would not be sensible to add them to the two biographical articles, but then the White Rose article might be more appropriate. WikiProject Germany is not extremely active at the moment, but it is a useful place to discuss things like conventions for German place names etc. The to-do lists don't get updated very often, so if you happen to notice anything that is still listed but has obviously been done, feel free to let me know and I'll take a look.--Boson (talk) 17:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any kind of system for working on things? I mean, if you've taken something on, are you supposed to just do it and say so after the fact or are you supposed to mention it on the WikiProject Germany page? Marrante (talk) 20:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, you just do it. If it is something that was requested, for instance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Article requests, you would, as a project member, normally add a comment that it had been done, for instance by adding a {{Done}} template. For something requested recently, you might add a comment that you are starting on it, to reduce the likelihood of two people working on it simultaneously. If you start translating an article, you can also add the {{Being translated}} template at the top of the article, which basically asks people to refrain from editing for a while as a courtesy. Depending on the likelihood of concurrent edits, you should keep the time to a minimum. As a non-member it might be best to mention things on the talk page, rather than on the project page itself. The sort of thing you should probably bring up at the project talk page first would be if you wanted to make changes to several Germany-related articles, like changing the translation of Landkreis. People at the project are more likely to know about previous discussions. Major changes involving only one article are probably best discussed on the relevant article talk page, but is normally only removal of text that may present problems. --Boson (talk) 23:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Marrante (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have listed Eckhard Stratmann-Mertens at Portal:Germany/New article announcements--Boson (talk) 23:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I never thanked you for listing my article in the new announcements. I actually have a question now. I have created a page for Manfred George, again translating from the German Wikipedia, but there's a great quote from the NYT that is naturally no longer in English and I can't get the original quote because the NYT has older articles behind a firewall. I have done a back translation, but was loathe to put that in, since it's obviously no longer a quote. I suppose I could have just referred to it and cited it, but my son was interrupting me about every 60 seconds and so it was hard to have a really clear thought process. Anyway, I left the German on the page and put a back translation on the talk page. But now I'm thinking it would be great to have a template called "Back translation" that asks if someone can provide the original and directing people to the talk page, if necessary, for more information on how to get it. I went to see if I could find or create such a thing, but don't have the time at the moment to really devote to this, so I thought I would ask you. Much easier, eh? TIA, Marrante (talk) 09:19, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should stress that I know very little about this, but what you might be looking for is Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange. You can add a request there. Or, if you go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Shared Resources and do a find on the newspaper concerned, I think you can contact a user with access (using the mail link). I think the idea is that you receive a reply by e-mail. You should, of course, not publish your e-mail address, but you can set your user profile (under "my preferences") to accept e-mail from other users. I believe this is more for verifying references, and there will be copyright issues if you actually include a quote (or even a translation of a quote) in the article; I'm not competent to advise you on that, but it might be better to paraphrase rather than quote and merely cite the newspaper article, having verified the quote (without publishing it).--Boson (talk) 23:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, fair use doesn't apply here? The German article has a whole paragraph, duly attributed, of course. I just went poking around the various guidelines a bit and as I understand it, quoting (according to fair use) is not a problem. It gets dicey when the quote gets too long, but I don't think I'm anywhere near that. The quote is longer than I'd normally use, but the few sentences build on each other, so it's hard to cut from the beginning and the last one is the big one (mentions Albert Einstein and Thomas Mann). I did find one or two people who probably have access to the NYT, but their entries were 2-3 years old. I've also asked someone I know who lives in NYC to see if she can come up with it. I'll see how I feel about this tomorrow. Marrante (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(revised) Marrante (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would also think you're OK, with proper attribution, though Wikipedia policy on fair use is stricter than the law. --Boson (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see? I got the quote! I finally remembered to put a link to my page on the German one and the creator of that page, Schreibkraft, came to the English version and replaced my back-translation, so now it's a real quote! Not bad, for a day's work! Thanks again for your help! Marrante (talk) 23:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Eisenberg (musician)

Thanks for the message. The guidelines for disambiguation are here, but generally speaking disambiguation parentheses should be kept as simple as possible. There is no need for nationality unless there is another musician called Jacob Eisenberg, nor is it necessary to pile on additional occupations. Hope this explains why I did what I did! – ukexpat (talk) 18:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was fairly obvious why you did what you did. What I was trying to do was explain why I did what I did. "Pile on" seems a bit strong in tone for the addition of one profession, but I understand the need for brevity. Marrante (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Touching interesting stories! Minor remarks: (in her article) I wouldn't say "Eisenberg was born" - understanding hat Eisenberg was her name only after she was married. (in their article) I would introduce their names in the lead section. (in his article) I would introduce one more heading, to get a table of contents. - Thank you for meeting three great people that way! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your compliment and suggestions. I think for continuity's sake, it makes more sense to keep the name consistent. Is there a Manual of Style rule for this? I've seen it done elsewhere, most notably where a person was married twice, so had three different names, it can get confusing. I will take a look at the other two pages and see what I can do. I'm glad you liked the articles. I'm glad I wrote them. Btw, is there a reason to want a table of contents? Marrante (talk) 20:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For an article longer than a page, I like to see the topics together. This one is borderline, of course. The table is also a good optical separation between the lead and the rest. Manual of style: I confess that I never studied it, learning by doing. One woman I wrote about kept her name when she married, the other one I more or less translated, not knowing her "marital status". I compared to Inge Jens just now: "Inge Jens" - perhaps just add the first name once, to please the mothers, babies are not born last name only, smile. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Franz Jacob (Resistance fighter)

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Saefkow-Jacob-Bästlein Organization

I have read your new article on the Saefkow-Jacob-Bästlein Organization. It is nice and well written, and you could very easily make it a lot better article.

Whilst there are some citations (footnotes), the source of much of the information is unclear. I assume that it comes either from the books listed in the bibliography or the external links. Please could you use these to add the missing citations.
Are there any photos of the various communists involved? If there are, they would add human interest to the article.
Who put up the memorial plaques? When were they put up? If they were put up by the communist collaborator government during the Russian occupation of East Germany, please could this be made clear. It would be helpful if you made it clear in the photograph caption that the reader should look at the relevant section - an internal wikilink could do this.
To what extent was this communist group controlled by the Russian NKVD? Or is this not known?
The article on the 20 July plot says that the only German political groups not involved in the plot, were the National Socialists and the Communists. Yet your article seems to suggest that communists were trying to get involved in the plot.

--Toddy1 (talk) 06:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I notice that someone nominated my article on Franz Jacob for a DYK, which appears today, fifth or sixth on the list of articles. This and most of the others I have been creating are all being picked from the German Wikipedia, which apparently either does not or did not emphasize inline citations very much, but just listed the sources at the end, so I have no way of knowing which sources have which facts, except for the rare occasion when one of them is actually available online and then I can check it out and if I'm lucky, find the infromation and then cite it. That's why I'm forced to just list those sources at the end, like they did on the German Wikipedia. This sort of information mostly comes in books and scholarly papers, most of which are in libraries or even certain university libraries and I either don't have access or don't have the time to pursue them. I do the best I can and have at times, such as with this article on Franz Jacob, been fortunate to have found a couple of key sources that allowed for more in-depth writing. However, I will take your comments into account and see what I can do to answer those questions. Thanks for writing. Marrante (talk) 08:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One footnote, I actually did try to find out already about the plaque recognizing the Teves memorial and I came up with nothing, though I tend to think it was the company itself.

Also, what happened to the survivors after the war? --Toddy1 (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you follow the link to Franz Jacob (Resistance fighter) and then Katharina Jacob, his wife, you will see that she survived, also Jacob's step-daughter (whose own father was also significant, but I haven't written about him yet. He's a lower priority for me at the moment). The step-daughter became a historian, as did a number of the children of those who were killed by Nazis. That alone is an interesting fact and maybe is worthy of an article. I do plan to write about the step-daughter at a later date. Her name is listed as a source, de:Ursel Hochmuth. (Her father was de:Walter Hochmuth, if you can read German and wish to read about him or them on the German Wikipedia.)

DYK for Prisoner functionary

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The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Prisoner functionary

The distinction is the same as the distinction between money and people. Yes, in effect I'm looking for ledger sheets, or at least tertiary sources that have seen such ledger sheets. Was the Third Reich actually able to employ fewer SS personnel overall and spend the extra money on other things (like tanks or more camps) as a result of this policy, or did they just move those people elsewhere, thereby not saving money at all but gaining strength. The quote you provide is very interesting but specifically talks about saving people, not money. Really, the most one can say without a citation to back this up is that each concentration camp saved money, because even if the SS personnel was just reassigned, they would have been taken off the ledger for that camp. But I doubt accounts were kept per-camp, and if they were, I doubt the salaries of SS were counted in the budgets for each camp. EAE (Holla!) 05:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that I'm going to be able to come up with anything like ledger sheets. Such evidence may be at the archives in Ludwigsburg, but I am far away from there. The sources I did read, however, stated that the SS was able to employ fewer people as a result of having the prisoner functionaries, and I read this more than once. The Nazis were extremely efficient, and set up their camps in a way that they could get buy with fewer guards. Watch towers were strategically located to this end and the prisoner functionary system was another tool. When marching prisoners out on work details, they didn't really have enough guards, so they set up a system they called "postenketten". This translates as "cordons," but not the shoulder-to-shoulder ones you see on the news, rather they were spaced far apart and were herding an exhausted, emaciated, mentally shattered group of people. Their policy was that the "imaginary line" from guard to guard constituted a boundary, that if crossed by a prisoner, constituted an escape attempt and the prisoner would be shot without warning.

The SS staff was so small in the camps that without the prisoner functionaries, the camp command would have disintegrated. I cited a source that said this in so many words. I don't know how this can be read other than that the camps were understaffed with regard to SS guards. Because the prisoner functionary system was set up from the beginning, the savings would not have been shown by a staff reduction, but I think it's still legitimate to consider it a savings. Marrante (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not disputing that using prisoner functionaries made the camps more efficient, I am just questioning why the savings are being expressed in terms of *money*. Can we just say that it saved personnel?

It wasn't just a matter of efficiency, it was also a means of control. But it did save them money because they had slave labor. Everything came down to money for the Nazis. I mean, they examined their victims before gassing them to see if they had any gold teeth or fillings. Then, after they killed them, other prisoners had to extract the teeth, which were then melted down. They killed hundreds of people just to get the tattoos on their bodies, or for some other whim. The depravity of these people knew no bounds. Saving personnel is a bottom line issue. In general, I don't see any way around that, but especially here, I feel like all their evil deeds need to be identified for what they were. Marrante (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, re German nouns, I don't speak German and I don't edit anonymously. That wasn't me. EAE (Holla!) 05:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a guess on my part, based on the time stamps. I don't make anonymous edits either, but I have goofed a couple of times, hitting that "save page" button just before realizing I had not logged in. Sorry, if my assumption offended you. Marrante (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't offend me at all, no worries, I'm just saying that I am totally not the right audience for your comment :) EAE (Holla!) 20:26, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hans Litten

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent article, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliment! How've you been? Marrante (talk) 21:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Doing many small things about singers and embarking on a Bach cantata a week - his pace. Writing from scratch or just expanding and bring to DYK. My favourite (and one of Bach's, btw): Erschallet, ihr Lieder, sung for my birthday 10 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for George E. Jonas

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Käthe Kollwitz

Hi, I removed the list of schools you recently added to this article. It is not our function to be a directory of external links. See our external links guideline as well as our policy that Wikipedia is not a directory and not an indiscriminate collection of information.

The rest of your work on this article has been stellar, keep it up :) Them From Space 00:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliment. I only put the list there because I was trying to demonstrate the statement (which was being questioned) that there were many schools named after her. I was kind of surprised at how many there were and even for cities right next to each other, like Dortmund and Essen. It was easier to do than trying to find a quote to cite. Marrante (talk) 09:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listenverbindungen

Regarding your question about the translation of "Listenverbindungen" in the article Urgent Call for Unity: what about "joined party lists"? All the best, Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It was late and I was tired and I tried very hard to cobble something together that didn't sound like "joint candidate lists" but was so blindsided by Verbindung that I couldn't see my way clear. In those moments, I generally find something to nudge my thinking by poking around online, but nothing was helping me. Then yesterday, I thought maybe if I just restore the word, some pitying soul would come along and help me. In the meantime, I came up with "unified party lists" but was not logged on and in my mind, it was too close to what I had already written (not so) and that it would be very confusing to Americans, but today, I remembered an article I linked to once before and it will work here again, I think. Thanks for your help! Marrante (talk) 12:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of cities that have stolpersteine

The answer is "one citation per city". Information must always be verifiable; without verifiable sources for say, Unna, how exactly are we to tell that the article is accurate? Ironholds (talk) 12:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm putting my reply on your talk page. Marrante (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Should we keep it in that one place for now? Ironholds (talk) 12:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Willi Eichler

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Urgent Call for Unity

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Armin Maiwald

On 25 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Armin Maiwald, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after Armin Maiwald produced an award-winning children's film depicting his own childhood experience in the grim aftermath of WWII in Germany, he said he never wanted to see the film again? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Article ratings

I have worked on a few articles that I believe no longer reflect their current status as "Start" class. How do I go about getting them reassessed? The articles are Hans Ehrenberg, Armin Maiwald and Die Sendung mit der Maus. I looked on Wikiproject Germany, but couldn't quite figure out where to make such a request. Thanks. Marrante (talk) 08:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can try asking any participant of that Wikiproject in which you want your article rating or simply edit the talk page of the article and clear the word 'start' and leave it empty, like this:

Current status as you said is:-

  WikiProject Germany|class=start|importance=high

After you change:-

  WikiProject Germany|class=|importance=high

Then, when someone will see this rating empty, he will definitely rate it. If the article really requires a higher rating, it will be rated so. I suggest a few ideas for helping in these articles:

You can add infoboxes at the starting of the article. Here is the link for the required infobox for Wikiproject Biography. Here you have to choose the template according to the person's (about whom you're writing) occcupation. I see in the Hans Ehrenberg article you wrote the persondata at the last. It isn't visible in the article. it's best to use this information in infoboxes.

Add pictures too, if available. This makes the article more interesting and beautiful.

Take help of FA class articles of Top importance of WikiProject Biography here

It's nice that you're interested in writing about Germany and biographies of people. It is best to participate in WikiProject Biography here and WikiProject Germany here by adding your username with signature. You can add the userboxes to your userpage if you wish to help anyone know that you're a participant. Below are the userboxes, just click 'edit' the copy the codes and paste them in your userpage:

This user participates in
WikiProject Germany.
This user is a participant in
WikiProject Germany.
This user participates in
WikiProject Biography.

If you need more help, do contact me here. Thanks, --Sainsf<^> (talk) 11:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nienover

On 24 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nienover, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lower Saxony's finance minister sold the important medieval archaeological site in Nienover to a horse breeder at a fire-sale price, without ensuring that 12 years of research could continue? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gary J. Aguirre

On 5 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gary J. Aguirre, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gary Aguirre, who predicted the 2008 financial crisis, was fired by the SEC for trying to investigate Wall Street banker John Mack, a major fundraiser to President Bush's 2004 campaign? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You did it!!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know. Hard to believe, eh? That was harder than the Hans Litten article and I didn't even have to translate (well, unless you count "legalese" as a separate language, which I probably should). Marrante (talk) 20:44, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you should count that as a very difficult separate language and be proud! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Ferdinand Grychtolik again

Please keep watching him. Perhaps you can greet the new user and tell him a few basics? I am no longer in a position to do so, I'm afraid, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uh-oh, sounds ominous. I'll have a look in a bit. Sort of racing around here at the moment. Marrante (talk) 21:14, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be under control now. Probably someone new who didn't quite know the routine yet. I had a bit of a =:-o reaction when I first looked yesterday, though. (One of the few smileys I like and will occasionally use.) Marrante (talk) 20:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted two more times. Could you greet him or her nicely , s.a.? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, seems to have helped, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope so – and you're welcome. Marrante (talk) 17:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mark Pittman

On 17 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mark Pittman, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mark Pittman sued the U.S. Federal Reserve during the 2008 financial crisis for refusing to say how it distributed $2 trillion ($2,000,000,000,000) of taxpayer-funded bank bailout money? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Joseph Schleifstein

On 27 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Schleifstein, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Joseph Schleifstein arrived at the Buchenwald concentration camp at age two, and survived because his father hid him in a sack? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hugo Schneider AG

On 3 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hugo Schneider AG, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that, starting in 1944, a Nazi labor subcamp of Buchenwald concentration camp was set up outside every HASAG arms factory in Germany? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Autopatrolled

Hello, this is just to let you know that I have granted you the "autopatrolled" permission. This won't affect your editing, it just automatically marks any page you create as patrolled, benefiting new page patrollers. Please remember:

This permission does not give you any special status or authority
Submission of inappropriate material may lead to its removal
You may wish to display the {{Autopatrolled}} top icon and/or the {{User wikipedia/autopatrolled}} userbox on your user page
If, for any reason, you decide you do not want the permission, let me know and I can remove it

If you have any questions about the permission, don't hesitate to ask. Otherwise, happy editing! Acalamari 15:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How does this selection process work? I'm just curious. I'm replying to your message here, but if I don't see a reply soon, I'll try your talk page. Thanks. Marrante (talk) 15:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, are you referring to the patrolling of articles, or how I came about granting you the userright? Acalamari 16:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was part two of your answer, how you came to grant me the user right. Marrante (talk) 18:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Several lists of candidates for the userright (see this page) were created to help get the autopatrolled userright out to strong article creators. You were listed at list 37, and after I reviewed some of your work, I judged that you were someone who could be trusted with the right, based on the quality and frequency of your article creations. Acalamari 18:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'm actually trying to spend a bit less time on Wikipedia, so perhaps I should decline. What constitutes an appropriate frequency of contributions? Marrante (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It does depend, and each editor is treated on a case-by-case basis: at a minimum, a decent article creation or two a week consistently from an editor would likely make them a good person to have autopatrolled, but someone who makes ten creations in a week, but the rest of their creations were years ago would likely be declined. Your last creation was in March, but it's still recent enough for me to justify granting you the userright. Even if you create articles at a slower rate than previously, you have an established track record of creating good articles. Hope this helps! Acalamari 15:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It does, thank you, but I have one last question. If my rate of contributions declines too much, do you then rescind the privilege? Marrante (talk) 16:40, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't, and I doubt other admins would either: the only occasions where the userright would be removed are: 1. inappropriate page creations (BLP violations, very bad formatting, or outright vandalism). 2. You announce that you want to permanently retire and want the rights removed. Merely editing less frequently in itself is not grounds for removing the right, as editing less isn't inappropriate. There are a few admins who might remove the userright if you totally stopped editing for several years, though. Acalamari 17:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that happening just yet, so I happily accept. Thank you for granting me the user right with its implied recognition of quality.. Marrante (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! I'm glad I was happy to help, and thanks for your good work! Best. Acalamari 17:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bill Murphy (GATA chairman)

On 15 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Murphy (GATA chairman), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that GATA chairman Bill Murphy revealed the name of whistleblower Andrew Maguire at a CFTC hearing on regulating gold and silver trading and the next day, Maguire and his wife were hit by a car? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bart Chilton

On 16 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bart Chilton, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured), who sports long hair and cowboy boots, has been called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness" for wanting the CFTC to prosecute fraud? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Give it another day and check the stats again; you may be pleasantly surprised! Good work! Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for James G. Rickards

On 20 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James G. Rickards, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 2010, national security consultant, lawyer and economist Jim Rickards rated Ben Bernanke a greater threat to the United States than Osama bin Laden? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nazi euthanasia centres

Hi Marrante. I had never heard of any of these terms either, until I did some research on google books to find out what English sources were using. I have a table in front of me of the results and have explained it on the talk page for Sonnenstein, although someone has now moved that to a name that gets no hits at all because he didn't like the spelling of "centre". The picture is not totally clear cut, but the term "Foo euthanasia institute/centre/facility/institution" is common enough. And "killing centre" is used too - although it is also used of concentration camps. You may not like the association of Nazis with euthanasia, but that is what they called it and what the sources call it, although many hasten to draw distinctions between what they practised and what most people mean by it today. We haven't renamed gas ovens or capital punishment simply because we don't like how people used them in the past. Bottom line is, it doesn't matter what we think - what do the sources call them? I may have overdone the capitalisation though - I need to check the sources again when I have more time. I'll also reference the naming. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get too wound up about that. Did you check his talk page? Just revert what he did, like many others have apparently done. As for staying true to the Nazi names for things, I have two thoughts on that. "Final solution" has a ring to it that deprives it of being used without recalling the Nazi usage. The name Adolph is likewise forever damned, but the word "euthanasia" is not associated only with Nazism. On the contrary, "mercy killing" is even considered a valid choice by some. Translation has to convey an original source text, but sometimes, the target languge words have to be adjusted to retain the feeling of the original and I think this is a prime example. Tötungsanstalt has an in-your-face clarity, but "Euthanasia center/re" could be anything. It even sounds like it could be a serene place for ailing people to spend their last moments before departing from their loved ones. It's too euphemistic for me, unlike the matter-of-fact bluntness of the original. English is, of course, less blunt than German, but in the case of describing Nazi crimes, I think I prefer not beating around the bush. Marrante (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have another look at naming by doing some more detailed research. I don't have an axe to grind; I just want to be sure I'm using valid and widely-used English terminology; albeit there doesn't appear to be a "right" answer. I have to say though that "killing centre" and "euthanasia something" have cropped up a lot in my research to date. I'm away soon, so it might be a while before I can get round to clearing it up, but at least the articles are started and can be built upon. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lurma Rackley

On 11 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lurma Rackley, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that African-American Civil Rights activist Gloria Blackwell and her daughter Lurma Rackley missed a court appearance because they were arrested for going to the white-only restroom in the courthouse? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gloria Blackwell

On 11 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gloria Blackwell, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that African-American Civil Rights activist Gloria Blackwell and her daughter Lurma Rackley missed a court appearance because they were arrested for going to the white-only restroom in the courthouse? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Wilson (artist) expansion

Hi, well done with Ben Wilson (artist) - that's a great addition of extra content; nice one! Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Still working on it. It's a great story. Right up my alley. Marrante (talk) 10:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arf! Yes, it's right up mine too - literally. I took the (not very good) photo in the article and Ben did a great painting for my daughter, though sadly I can't use it without his permission as ~~it's~~ the work in the photo is obviously his copyright not mine. I see him around from time to time, and nearly tripped over him once or twice, and admire him greatly. Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Love your user name, btw. That's maybe the second time I've LOL'd at one here. Well done! Marrante (talk) 10:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, thanks! I used to be someone else looooong ago here but by the time I went away and came back and started editing again here I was pretty much all those things. I ought to add Old in there but i think DBaK reads better than ODBak, DOBaK, DBOaK etc! Cheers DBaK (talk) 11:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw this was assessed as a stub, so I reassessed as C-class. I think it would help if another editor reassessed for B-Class. Viriditas (talk) 20:00, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for William J. Toye

On 22 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William J. Toye, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that William J. Toye pleaded guilty to forging folk artist Clementine Hunter's work, but said he despised her style? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tony Tetro

On 27 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tony Tetro, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that, while in parochial school, art forger Tony Tetro was hit by a nun after he painted her as a Vargas girl in a habit with a "pruney face"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Orli Wald

On 24 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Orli Wald, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Orli Wald spent from 1936 to 1945 in Nazi prison and concentration camps for being a communist, only to leave the Communist Party in 1948 because of Stalinism? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for this one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wittorf affair

On 31 July 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wittorf affair, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although the 1928 Wittorf affair was a German scandal, Joseph Stalin played a key role? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 01:49, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, now on Germany, and Orli Wald hits updated, + 500. Tatiana von Metternich got me close to 5k for the first time. See my talk for some interesting qs, "Lo dicono" among others, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Julia Voss

On 4 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Julia Voss, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the title of a 2008 article by German journalist Julia Voss translates as "Jim Button saves the theory of evolution"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Julia Voss.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cuno strikes

On 8 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cuno strikes, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Cuno strikes on August 11, 1923, helped force the resignation of the German chancellor and his entire cabinet on August 12 and inspired the Communist Party to plan a coup? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Cuno strikes.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice meeting "you" in a set of 3 Germans. - Completely different topic: another deletion discussed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that too! I'll check out the other in a bit. Marrante (talk) 07:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Allgemeiner Deutscher Gewerkschaftsbund

On 13 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Allgemeiner Deutscher Gewerkschaftsbund, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in May 1933, the Nazis stormed the General German Trade Union Federation and all its member unions, seizing their assets and putting their leaders in "protective custody"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Allgemeiner Deutscher Gewerkschaftsbund.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Elli Hatschek

On 8 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Elli Hatschek, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Elli Hatschek, her husband Paul, and his daughter, Krista Lavíčková, were all executed by the Nazis within seven months of each other? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elli Hatschek.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So our married couples "made it" the same day, the one with the N-word of course attracting 5 times as many hits, congrats! The funeral was great, if I may say so, more on my talk. Bazon Brock spoke, well, deserves an article (de, nl), but I have real life duties now first. - Thanks for helping father Gárdonyi! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats as well and thank you and you're welcome. That N-word is really something, eh? Like flies to honey. I was naturally hoping some attention would be drawn to the really significant article on Wehrkraftzersetzung, but no such luck. A smattering of hits was all. I don't have time (and may not even be able) to get it properly referenced, but I hoped some of the N-word "glow" from EH would trickle down, being that it was the actual (and only) crime EH was accused of. But no, I guess I did "too" sufficient a job of explaining it in her article. Marrante (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Truly unpredictable. I recently got a friend's List of stutterers, pipe-linked as "stammered", to 1.2k, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mårup Church

On 20 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mårup Church, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 13th-century Mårup Church (pictured) was partially dismantled in 2008 to prevent it from falling into the North Sea? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mårup Church.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Anna Essinger

On 7 October 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anna Essinger, which you created or substantially expanded. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Essinger.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from me, and the flag is seen on P:DE - finally one since your last which is not "mine", I started feeling lonely, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Sorry, was away — and was writing other things, too (Mårup Church, for ex.). More later. Marrante (talk) 08:54, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See "your" pic in French, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bunce Court School

Congratulations on your new article, which I've now reviewed for DYK. I've mentioned a few points you may wish to respond to. --NSH001 (talk) 10:34, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just got back, and found someone's promoted the article already. Don't worry, I wasn't intending to switch it to BrE in the near future - this is a very busy and exciting time for me on Wikipedia, as Chrissie is going to keep me up all night tomorrow! I can just feel it in my bones, that we could see something very, very special from her tomorrow. But we shall see. I have a long list of "to-do" items for her article, and would like get as much of it done as possible before she starts in the World Championship, which will cause a big spike in visitors to her article. At least I've now got the hardest bit out of the way with the article on Brett Sutton, a key figure in her career (hence my little visit to DYK). I think she is going to turn out to be the most outstanding female athlete of all time, anywhere, in any sport, and yet she gets almost no publicity in her home country. Strange. I can understand why you don't edit in BrE, and that's fine. I do do some editing in AmE - Ironman Triathlon is one such article. I would like, eventually, to turn Mark Allen and Dave Scott into Featured Articles, and they will have to be written in AmE. I think we Brits find it easier to code-switch, because we're exposed to a lot of AmE from early childhood, plus I've also lived and worked in the States. No doubt I will slip up occasionally, but I'm sure any such slip-ups will rapidly be corrected by U.S. readers. On the hook, I think the best one would be something along the lines of how the whole school had to move to escape the horrors of Nazi Germany, but I didn't/don't have enough spare time to draft such a hook. Anyway, best wishes, and thanks again for a fascinating article. --NSH001 (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for your compliments and understanding my position on AmE and BrE. I just feel I'm too apt to slip up. Well, good luck on your sporting events! That's good motivation you have. I worked on an article some months ago, it was just a whim. What was there was in terrible shape and I spruced it up, not really thinking about anything, but it was about a very popular German children's television show and it had it's 40th birthday not long after I improved the article. That would have been a spike right there, but in honor of the day, they got a "Google doodle" (their special logos) and the spike was very noticeable! The German WP article was even more impressive, of course. So, good luck with articles! Marrante (talk) 20:54, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sanitätswesen

Perhaps you can find a better or shorter title, my point was only to distinguish the article from other meanings. Apokrif (talk) 17:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RE: DYK nomination of Ahmad Nady

Thanks. Glad people liked the article thanks to your amazing hook :-) Im working on another article, hope ppl find as interesting -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 17:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Strike that "amazing" though, eh? It was just a simple statement of the salient point. Marrante (talk) 20:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Listen, let me know if you are free and interested in expanding/writing about MENA activists/victims. I am gonna be busy and I need all the help I can get :-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 14:38, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm probably not going to be able to do much writing for you, but may be able to do some proofreading, though I'm going to have little or no Internet access for about a week. Marrante (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bunce Court School

On 10 October 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bunce Court School, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1933, a mostly Jewish boarding school escaped Nazi Germany and re-opened as Bunce Court School in Kent, England, ultimately saving the lives of hundreds of children and several teachers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bunce Court School.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks from me and the wikiVictuallers (talk) 12:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

and from me, moving! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And me too. I have added a few bits and bobs - your Bunce Court article lead me to Peter Morley, and thence to Kitty Hart-Moxon - all of which you made, I see. Well done you for all your fantastic efforts. 81.156.126.158 (talk) 15:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong end of the country for photos, sorry - but have found it on Google Earth (no idea how to put the coords up on Wiki). If you put 51 14 47.15 N, 0 46 37.44 E into the Google Earth search box it comes up. Looks like they've built a small housing estate in the grounds - shame. Still, that happens a lot with big houses these days. Lovely rural location and a beautiful house - no wonder the children (and teachers) loved it, despite the wartime hardships.81.156.126.158 (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, too bad. Yeah, they have built on the grounds. The house is also now a residence (a "four-plex"). Alumni say they hardly recognize the place. That's in part why I didn't put a section on the building itself. No access to it, no proper photos, so I just left it for a later date. I'm still hunting things down, actually and wish you hadn't made all those changes just yet but I know you hadn't yet seen my note on the talk page. I'm going to restore the "British" before school inspector just for clarity. Don't forget that people read this from all over the world and not all of them speak English as a mother tongue (never mind the accent). Marrante (talk) 16:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry about making the Br Eng/Am Eng changes before I went to the talk page. That's the trouble when something is 'out there' rather than in user space, I suppose. Anyway, other people in the UK would probably have done as I did (it's very odd to read something on a UK subject written in American English - although I know that there's a massive German element to it too!), and I'd caution very gently that you must be careful about not getting into WP:OWN territory, so why not sooner rather than later? I took the British qualifier out for the inspector just because it seemed self-evident that when the school was based in England the inspectors would be British - they wouldn't have been German, given the situation. I didn't do that with reference to the possible readerships' location, just to remove what seemed unnecessary. But no worries if you feel it should go back in.

I'll leave the "British" out then. I was thinking of my own confusion at first, but it wasn't over nation of course, it was over whether or not it was a local inspection or a federal one. I wrote "British" because it was correct either way, but I guess it sounds silly if you can't peer into my head while reading it. As for "WP:OWN", well..... pooh. I don't work on "group" projects for a reason. It's hard to have other people mess with my writing, but a few deep breaths and I'm okay. Really the problem for me is the AmE / BrE thing. I just can't split my focus when doing real writing. I also really hate DD-MM-YY formats, but I recognize I'm fighting a losing battle there. Marrante (talk) 17:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like they've split the house into at least two parts - here's a brochure for the 'West House' which looks to be the west wing in the aerial photos. I expect you've already seen it, given your most thorough research, but just in case ... [1]. 81.156.126.158 (talk) 16:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Four. Thanks for the link. I had not seen the brochure, but had seen something else about the building, a local site from Faversham or Otterden, as I recall. Thank you also for the compliment on the research. I never write in user space. No one said boo about this article till it went on the main page. That's usually what happens with what I write here. The only problem with this was the AmE business, which I knew would be jarring for Brits and be changed, but I hoped I could at least get some sympathy (an indulgence?) before the onslaught. Quick question about "the German element" you mentioned. Are you seeing a lot of German-inflected syntax? I try hard to avoid that when translating, but it creeps in anyway. (I usually fix that after a few days' rest, when I can look over what I've written with fresh eyes.) Marrante (talk) 17:10, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hanna Bergas

On 18 October 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hanna Bergas, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hanna Bergas was one of three teachers who, at Dovercourt, England, met thousands of children fleeing Nazi Germany without their parents on the Kindertransports? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hanna Bergas.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 12:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bunce Court School

Hi. You definitely made the right choice by bumping it out of the speedy renaming queue so that we can explore other options. First, note that I'm recommending "people educated at" instead of "alumni" not because it's more euphonious (truth be told I rather like "alumni") but because it's good to have a little bit of consistency at least within the categories corresponding to a given country. Regarding the choice of a category title broad enough to include past teachers, I'm not entirely convinced that this is the right way to go. One worry is that such a category would not appear in Category:People educated by school in England and might end up isolated in some strange corner of the category tree that nobody ever visits. I'd rather have a separate category for staff (if it's not ridiculously small) and a parent category including staff and alumni. For instance Category:People associated with George Watson's College is organized in precisely this way. Best, Pichpich (talk) 21:02, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I did see that the "People educated" had lots of company, but there aren't that many people to go into another category, but perhaps it's warranted anyway. I've seen categories with two or three people in them. So far, I would have five or six and I may create another couple of pages, if I can find enough material. And the parent category as shown in the example you left works very well, especially since it's complicated enough with three names for one school. Following that format would be fine. I'll go leave a comment over at the discussion page. Marrante (talk) 21:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I should thank you for indirectly leading me to read the fascinating Bunce Court School article. It's a remarkable story and I think this warrants special treatment (within reason). If there's only one or two articles for notable staff members, you could still create Category:People associated with Bunce Court School for those one or two people and have the alumni as a subcategory. Pichpich (talk) 22:45, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's an amazing story, isn't it? I'm not done with it. There's more, but at the moment, I've been trying to find out about the staff. It's hard to find info, but I'm persistent. This story deserves so much more than Wikipedia, but I'm hoping this will be a start. Thanks for the help with the category. I haven't added to the discussion page yet, but will soon. Marrante (talk) 00:13, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"so much more than Wikipedia"?!? Blasphemy! Blasphemy! :-)

All kidding aside, I suggest that we place the original speedy renaming request back in the queue. You can create the other categories when needed. Of course you could already go ahead and create the parent Category:People associated with Bunce Court School since it will at the very least contain the Anna Essinger article. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 01:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it's rather silly of me to tell you what to do rather than do it myself. I've gone ahead and created the parent category. I also feel that there are enough teachers to warrant a subcategory but the broader one also works fine. Pichpich (talk) 01:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Marrante (talk) 02:53, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Michael Roemer

On 2 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michael Roemer, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that independent filmmaker Michael Roemer paid just $5,000 to acquire the rights to use Motown hits for his 1964 film Nothing But a Man? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Roemer.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bruno Adler

On 9 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bruno Adler, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that art historian Bruno Adler taught at the Bauhaus before becoming a refugee and writing British propaganda in German for BBC Radio? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bruno Adler.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for more food for thought! - Did you know that you have to enter yourself here? (I didn't.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:17, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! No, I didn't know that. I don't think I'll bother with it, though. Nice, the way two of this morning's DYK are related to the date, though. I wonder if there will be others? Were you involved with the timing? Marrante (talk) 10:47, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, no, I was not involved, only pleased. I would like to see your name in that list (and give you a medal, smile). For me it's the only way of counting. But you do it beautifully on your user page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Wilhelm Marckwald

On 12 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wilhelm Marckwald, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Wilhelm Marckwald went from directing theater in Germany and film in Spain to working as a boilerman and gardener in England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wilhelm Marckwald.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dorothy Mayhall

On 17 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dorothy Mayhall, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Dorothy Mayhall was the first director of the Aldrich Contemporary Art Museum? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothy Mayhall.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 08:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Storm King, wonderful memories, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Marrante (talk) 11:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But I almost didn't recognize the Kröller-Müller Museum, because of its strange name and being termed "smaller". I think it is great both by size and collection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I struggled to think of a way to describe it and I was thinking in terms of the really huge places like the Louvre and the Met (NYC) and I know it's not small (like say, the Aldrich) but I just couldn't think of anything else. I didn't really love that word either, but I had to come up with something to differentiate. I'll have to look at that again. You know, I didn't recognize the name either, but I sure remember being there. Thanks, btw, for fixing that one link. That seems to be a new habit of mine. I've caught myself doing it several times, mostly seems to come with things I'm changing. Marrante (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have the word for "not so general", the selected topics it covers best (van Gogh, sculpture) are covered well. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just fixed it with the simplest solution. Don't know why I didn't write it this way the first time. 11:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Next language q: "had had strokes", don't like the repetition, would "had suffered strokes" also work? "Around the world" - could that be a little less general? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I actually prefer "had had", so I'd like to leave that. I changed "around the world" to "numerous countries on several continents." I just didn't want to list countries, since they're mentioned (in part, actually) in the body. Maybe I'll try to find some other refs for some of the other countries. Marrante (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. "All around" was limited by art and architecture anyway, smile, perhaps mention Asia and Europe? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I have written it that way about five times (including just now) and somehow, it always ends up looking silly to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like I'm trying to exploit every possible aspect to justify notability (though I don't think that's an issue here). If you want, though, I'll put them in. Marrante (talk) 13:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I did not know. I don't think it's fishing for notability if you say precisely North America, Europe and Asia instead of vague "several continents", there are not so many, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just added more countries to the list in the body copy and will name continents in the lede. Marrante (talk) 13:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I just saw Brazil (twice), so even The Americas, smiling more. I hope you will be able to point at a few examples of destination (museum, building, ...) with a link, sort them by something recognizable (location, date, importance, ...), and will now leave you alone, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Erich Katz

On 20 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Erich Katz, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that musicologist Erich Katz, a German Jewish refugee who was briefly in Dachau, had a long friendship with Carl Orff, despite rumors about Orff's relationship with the Nazis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Erich Katz.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 08:02, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Homophony

Teach me English: I find that homophone is a term related to language, but not necessarily the one meant here. I always wrote "homophon", similar to "unison", but see now that the homophony article only has "homophonic". Before changing all the Bach cantatas I would like clarification on the matter, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I went to that article to look and found the same thing you did. Then I went to Google and just typed in homophon and it came up with the e and I went and changed the article. I never heard of a second spelling in English and when I read it the first time, just assumed it was a new one on me, till I saw that the link was piped, then I started looking to see how the word was spelled. I just looked in my trusty Webster's and it had homophone for language and homophony / homophonic for music. Argh! This seems to suggest it should take an e, though there's no mention of music here. Frustrating, but I think it is a rare use, that the word regularly occurs as "homophony" or "-phonic" in English and that's really the problem. Marrante (talk) 20:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just went back and looked at how you used the word and it is an adjective, so the correct usage is homophonic. I've already changed the article. No wonder the lack of appearance, the noun is "homophony" and the adjective is "homophonic". The noun "homophone" is for language. Had I approached this from that basis, I'd have saved us both some time! Marrante (talk) 20:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Helps, thank you, - will change eventually, surprised that nobody noticed so far, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jacqueline Moss

On 25 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jacqueline Moss, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Jacqueline Moss guided tours of Joseph Hirshhorn's sculpture garden in Greenwich, Connecticut, before he had the art moved to his museum in Washington? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jacqueline Moss.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hotel Lux

On 30 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hotel Lux, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that many German communists fleeing Nazi persecution who initially found refuge in Moscow's Hotel Lux were killed in Josef Stalin's purges? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hotel Lux.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 14:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC) 00:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ruth von Mayenburg

On 2 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ruth von Mayenburg, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ruth von Mayenburg was born into an aristocratic German family, became a spy for the Soviet Union during World War II, and in the 1960s, wrote the first history of Hotel Lux? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ruth von Mayenburg.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nachum Dov Brayer

Hi, thanks for reviewing this nomination. It looks like The Jewish Press changed its destination address. I fixed the link, and also added another ref. Best, Yoninah (talk) 09:36, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hans Krieger

On 4 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hans Krieger, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hans Krieger, an award-winning German essayist, influential in papers such as Die Zeit, wrote the text for a Christmas cantata by Graham Waterhouse that premieres today? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Krieger.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sobottka

(I had reviewed the father before turning to the alleged conspiracy, only to find out that wasn't the first.) I wonder if the word "Muckern" as a special group/kind of Pietismus might be a good idea for those who like precision. Also it is not as clear in the article as in the source that he was (too) happy about Stalin's death. That might be a hook possibility, leaving the sons for a son's article. (And - quibble - there is a sentence with two "then" in a row which I had to read twice. Is "confirmed" - many meanings - the term for "nach der Konfirmation"?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't write that about his being overjoyed because two other sources did not confirm it, but merely said this or something like it. ("Als er von Stalins Tod erfuhr, erlitt er einen Kreislaufzusammenbruch. Gustav Sobottka, der Revolutionär aus Röhlinghausen, starb vom 5. zum 6. März 1953 in Berlin.") It's a very knee-jerk anti-Communist reaction to interpret his reaction like that, but it may not have been the case. He stayed true to his "religion", as did many others, including his son and Damerius, who took steps to make sure his memoirs would not be published first in the west as an anti-Communist diatribe, despite his 18 years in gulags, etc. For a bunch of atheists, they were the "party faithful" in more ways than one and Stalin was their pope, the party their church. Neither could make a mistake or do wrong. Millions of letters were written to Stalin, to inform him of what was going on, they all assumed the party leaders didn't know, not that they were the ones orchestrating it all. I should really make that all clear. There were quotes from several letters that just make me shake my head. I just added "Muckern" to the piped word, though it just dawned on me, I should probably have dropped the "n". Marrante (talk) 12:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, shaking my head, too. Going from one strict church to another makes sense in a way. I would add the pic to the nom, to give him a face there (although it will probably not appear). How about mentioning the location of his exile in the lede? The pic is not yet in the commons, right? You may want to start adding "alleged" to a pipe link on the conspiracy, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the pic can go on DYK. I think the photo is from the documentary made about him and is under copyright. I'll go about hunting down the piped links. There's another of him when he was younger, but it's clearly been scanned by something like a fax machine and there's basically not detail about it. Marrante (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just looked at the one sentence with two "thens". It's too bad, but it is actually the best solution, in my opinion. The other would be to break up the sentences, or add a different phrase, like "at the time", which is just more cluttered. I prefer lean writing, even when it occasionally gets caught up in such little issues. Yeah, the "confirmed" is in the sentence following the church stuff, so it relates directly to it. Marrante (talk) 13:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, taken. I created a redirect and entered them on Sobotka (disambiguation), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Marrante (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hitler Youth Conspiracy

On 7 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hitler Youth Conspiracy, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1938, the Soviet Union secret police executed 40 teenagers and adults in pursuit of an alleged Hitler Youth Conspiracy, which was later found baseless? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hitler Youth Conspiracy.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You certainly picked the right attractive name for this one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I always say... Marrante (talk) 16:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gustav Sobottka

On 8 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gustav Sobottka, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that East German politician Gustav Sobottka lost both of his sons; one died in a Communist prison and one shortly after liberation from a Nazi concentration camp? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gustav Sobottka.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fritz Grasshoff

On 9 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fritz Grasshoff, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that painter and poet Fritz Graßhoff (pictured) published the collection of poetry Halunkenpostille in 1947, made money with hits for singers Lale Andersen and Hans Albers, and translated poems from Latin and Swedish? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fritz Grasshoff.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Helmut Damerius

Hello! Your submission of Helmut Damerius at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 15:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Left Column (theater troupe)

On 13 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Left Column (theater troupe), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Left Column theater troupe left Germany on the eve of Nazism only to lose many members to the Stalinist purges? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Left Column (theater troupe).You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Deutsche Zentral Zeitung

On 18 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Deutsche Zentral Zeitung, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the communist newspaper Deutsche Zentral Zeitung ran volumes of show trial transcripts, but never the consequences, and ceased publication after most of the staff were also arrested? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Deutsche Zentral Zeitung.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 08:18, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gustav Sobottka, Jr.

On 19 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gustav Sobottka, Jr., which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gustav Sobottka, Jr. was imprisoned by the Nazis at age 18 and by Stalin's secret police at age 23? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gustav Sobottka, Jr..You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Helmut Damerius

On 23 December 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Helmut Damerius, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Helmut Damerius spent 18 years of his life in a gulag and banishment to Kazakhstan, and was finally released on condition that he never talk or write about it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Helmut Damerius.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

EncycloPetey (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC) 08:03, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Kemna concentration camp

On 20 January 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kemna concentration camp, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that torture at Kemna concentration camp (memorial pictured), one of the first Nazi concentration camps, was so brutal that the Nazis held hearings on it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kemna concentration camp.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:14, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ernst Ottwalt

On 31 January 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ernst Ottwalt, wh