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Can't Hold Us Down[edit]

Since when is swedishcharts.com an official site to judge what is a single? It doesn't even state that it is a single. I've given a reference stating that the song was released in 2014 and if that reference isn't good enough I'll give a better one. The only one adding incorrect changes is you by putting it under 2015. AAron 8967 (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@AARON 8967: It archives the Swedish Charts (And other countries as well) therefore I think it's an official site to judge. They recorded it in 2014, doesn't mean it was released in 2014. Also if you scroll back far enough on Axwell Λ Ingrosso's Instagram you'll find the same information from the artists them selves!Mn1548 (talk) 11:04, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mn1548: If you go to 69 weeks ago on their instagram they have information saying it was released in 2014. The music video for Can't Hold Us Down was released in 2015. And if a song enters a chart it does not make it a single. The Swedish Charts doesn't say that it is. I've given two references saying it was released in 2014 from complex and google play and I'll give another one from dej jam the record company their signed to.
@AARON 8967: If a song is released separate from and album, then it is released as a "single" format!Mn1548 (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry[edit]

Stop using 90.194.233.120 (talk · contribs) to carry out contentious edits or I will report you for sockpuppetry, which is inappropriate use of multiple accounts. Do not add spaces between certifications and references, as you did at Little Mix discography. Also, stop adding The X Factor to the "Album" column; the column says Album. Same goes with your IP edits at Sam Smith discography. Spectre the film is not an album. By the way, I know you are Nathanaelsadgrove (talk · contribs) as well; you edit exactly the same topics and articles (and you also performed the same edit at Little Mix's discography concerning adding a TV series into the Album column). Ordinarily, using multiple accounts is not a problem but when you keep doing the things I and other users warned you not to, that's when there is and will be a problem. Ss112 12:16, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ponyo: How would one do that?Mn1548 (talk) 18:47, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You could just add the link to your old user page (User:Nathanaelsadgrove) after "Old Account Broke:" on your new user page. I can do it for you if you're unsure.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 18:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Ponyo: I mean code format, is it just the same as a standard page?Mn1548 (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just type [[User:Nathanaelsadgrove]] and save it. Sundayclose (talk) 19:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Sundayclose: Thank you Mn1548 (talk) 19:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ponyo - the link was removed, although Mn1548's back to the same kind of thing Nathanaelsandgrove collected the warnings for. Pinkbeast (talk) 04:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As far as socking is concerned, I'm not too worried about the removal as the link is in the user page history as well as in this talk page section, and there has been no overlap in the account usage. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:48, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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May 2017[edit]

Please make sure the information in references you're deleting is contained in other references on the page. On Axwell and Ingrosso, you claimed in an edit summary that "individual peak chart positions refs are unnecessary as there are refs for the all peak chart positions at the top". The reference for the Flanders peak of "I Love You" is not in the reference at the top of the column, hence why I added it in the first place, so I have restored the reference. Do not remove it. Thank you. Ss112 16:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, thanks for fixing the mistake User:Mn1548



You claimed in your edit summary here "F.F.F." is a single and wrote "NOTE: Reference was included..." (cut off?) but yet you have provided no reference with your edit that indicates it is a single. The difference is "Galway Girl" and "Don't Let Me Be Yours" were both announced as singles. Has "F.F.F." been called a single? Ss112 19:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ss112 The rest of that was "...reference was included but it prevented the edit from saving, if anyone could find a reference that worked it would be much appreciated". By the way if my references that I tried to include (from Billboard and YouTube) are incorrect, please correct the edit. The song did following the same release as the songs mentioned (One after the album it's from but wasn't given its own one songed album) thus is and should be classed as a single. User:Mn1548

Ina Wroldsen[edit]

Ina Wroldsen was not credited on "How Deep Is Your Love", so it is not appropriate to include the song in her discography, and it's been removed. I'm pretty sure you've been warned about this practice before. For instance, Beyoncé quite notably had her vocals on Coldplay's "Hymn for the Weekend" but the song is not on her discography because she was not officially credited. Putting "uncredited" next to it does not excuse it. Ss112 00:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Schulz discography[edit]

I have moved the discussion to Talk:Robin Schulz discography, as it seems more appropriate for that page, as you are seeking changes to the page that may be controversial. Ss112 16:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2017[edit]

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Coldplay's songs did not gain those chart positions because Avicii remixed them. You're taking chart positions of songs that Avicii remixed after the fact, and attributing their success to Avicii. That's original research unless they are credited as being Avicii's remixes on sites. Do not reinstate said information to Avicii's discography without proof. This will be considered disruption and be reverted. If you want to reply, you can do so here, or discuss it on Talk:Avicii discography. There is no need to open a duplicate topic on my talk page. Ss112 15:28, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112: Firstly, I never credited an Avicii remix of a Coldplay song; and secondly, I put no chart positions on the remix part of the table I split.

However regarding the production table, surely those songs got there chart positions and certifications due to all the production and songwriting that went into making the song. My intent was to add the chart positions and certifications of those songs like in the rest of the discography. Note: I was unable to find an overall reference for the chart positions as the credit artists were different but references for the certifications were there and for Avicii producing the songs. Please tell me if given chart positions for production credits is a "no" for the reason that finding overall chart references are hard, or for any other reason as the no original research policy doesn't really say anything against as as the cerdit of "producer" has been made clear. Mn1548 (talk) 17:42, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, my mistake: I meant you created an unsourced chart table for Avicii's production work. It's original research because there were no references. If you can't find references for material you're adding, you shouldn't be adding it. Full stop. You also added fake peaks of Devil Pray: it didn't reach number 3 in France, let alone any chart, and its peak in Sweden was number 16 on the Digital chart, not the overall singles chart. Ss112 17:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Ss112: OK. Charts and Certifications should be avoided for production credits. However I still think the table should be split and some songs removed as the apper in "As featured artist" as "Other charted songs". Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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DNCE discography[edit]

The album column does not mean "which albums is the song included on?" because if it did mean that, every compilation a song subsequently appears on should be listed too. Is it for other discographies? No. It means which album or release (EP, mixtape, compilation, live album and so on) it was released in promotion of. The note was there for a reason. Don't come along and disregard it because you think you know better. Thanks. Ss112 00:55, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jackman Discography[edit]

Hello. Spotify is a streaming media WP is an encyclopedia. We don't refer to backing vocals on the track list and no this has nothing to do with WP:OR. Plus in Edit warring it does not matter who and why started it you just need to avoid it. So if you still have problems discuss it here first before reverting. CerberaOdollam (talk) 13:49, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CerberaOdollam: Firstly, you made the edit with out discussing and the reason why backing vocalists are not normally included is because they are not normally credited but in this case they are so they should be added. Mn1548 (talk) 14:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If either of you are going to discuss the matter (which neither of you have done properly), it will be at the article talk page, not someone's user talk page. Mn1548, as the person making the edit, you should have started the discussion (see my edit summary}, and CerberaOdollam, you shouldn't be encouraging to start a discussion here. I've started a split proposal at the Hugh Jackman talk page, so feel free to have this discussion there as well as weigh in on the proposal. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 00:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Lee Grant[edit]

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September 2018[edit]

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@Ss112: "Spectrum (Say My Name)", the remix, is the version which went number 1 not the album version called "Spectrum".[1][2] And I think you'll find Calvin Harris was officially credited on the remix,[3] which is why "Spectrum (Say My Name)" was originally on that list. I made the edit because I noticed it had been removed. Mn1548 (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The list did not previously state Calvin Harris had another number one with "Spectrum (Say My Name)" before you added it. Also, the Official Charts article you just cited doesn't actually say or credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. Nor does the cover art of the remix; nor does the article Spectrum (Say My Name). They just state that he remixed it. Where do we draw the line? Did Calvin also have another number one because he produced "I Will Never Let You Down" by Rita Ora, which went to number one? Also, Spotify was nowhere near as relevant as it is now in 2012 when that song went to number one, so I hardly see how what they choose to credit it as now matters. Spotify doesn't decide everything. What matters is that is not how the Official Charts Company credits it—according to them and all other media I've seen reporting on it, Calvin has had eight number ones on which he is credited according to the OCC. Ss112 10:21, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ss112: The list did previously state it as a number 1. That's how I realised it was missing. Spotify/Apple Music etc uses official credits for songs as I believe you pointed out previous regarding Beyoncé and Hymn for the Weekend. A production, while technically would count as being a number 1, we would not included as there are no official credits. A remix on the other hand is completely different as it is a different version of the original songs which in this case is quite important as the remix performed considerably better than the original. Finally the main article does credit the Calvin Harris remix as number 1 - read it "Spectrum (Say My Name)". Mn1548 (talk) 10:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you added it to Harris' number ones on that list in 2017 and it was rightfully removed after that by another editor. Dude, I did read Spectrum (Say My Name), and you don't seem to know what I'm referring to: the infobox and the cover art contained on that article do not credit Calvin Harris as a lead or featured artist. The cover art does not say "Florence and the Machine & Calvin Harris" or even "featuring Calvin Harris". Linking me directly to the section titled "Calvin Harris remix" is unnecessary because that section doesn't really say anything different. Calvin is not credited by the Official Charts Company, who have specifically stated he's had eight number ones in the 2010s decade and ten overall here. Remixers are not always given lead or featured credit on the songs they remix. I'm done arguing with you, so if you tag or reply to me again, you're really wasting your time because you won't be getting another from me. Ss112 20:42, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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June 2019[edit]

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@Magnolia677: Vargas & Lagola are associated acts of Avicii. May I also point out that no acts on that list are sourced and neither is that section of the infobox sourced for the vast majority of other artists. Correct me if I'm wrong ut the definition of "associate act" that Wikipedia uses is a minimum of two or more collaboration (at least that's what it seems to be based of other edits of the same natute). By that definition the information I added to the Infobox is already sourced throughout the article and does not need to be resorced in the infobox as no other artist is. Mn1548 (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Correct me if I'm wrong"...I already did by reverting your edit and leaving a caution on your talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Well then...Please do the next logical thing and explain why I'm wrong and what constitutes an "associate act" so this thing doesn't happen again. Mn1548 (talk) 07:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Any material added to an article that "is likely to be challenged" needs to include an inline citation, per Wikipedia:Verifiability. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Magnolia677: Thats still not you answering the question I asked of "What is an associated act?" So seen as you're unable to let's do this properly. Template:Infobox musical artist states that an associated act should follow on of four criteria. One of which:

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Such times Vargas & Lagola have collaborated with Avicii include:

If this doesn't class as "collaborated on multiple occasions" then I don't know what does. Information is generally not sourced in infoboxs as it is a summary of the main article where such information is already sourced. Now do I need to source these here and now or are you able to click the links and see that the collaborations have been sourced on their respective pages and are also sourced on the main page as well! Mn1548 (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

July 2019[edit]

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Phil Neville. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 12:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattythewhite: Please check the edit history and you will find that it is indeed sourced. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 12:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It should be sourced in the article itself. What use to our readers is a link when it's hidden away in an edit summary? Mattythewhite (talk) 13:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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That content is already sourced in the prose. Please ensure that you cite content properly in future if you don't want to be "blindly" reverted. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Challenge cup final articles[edit]

How much are you going to expand on these articles other than copying and pasting information from the parent article? This looks more like creating articles for the sake of it rather than providing a good experience for the reader who can no not read for example the complete account of the 2015 Challenge Cup without having to click through to another page? Also by copying and pasting as you have you are not complying with WP:COPYWITHIN and providing attribution as required of the contributions you have copied. Nthep (talk) 13:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nthep: The problem is there is a broken sequence of pages with only the 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2019 final pages existing. My plan was to link 2009 to 2019 together with a basic overview and expand later. All pages should ideally look like 2009 but 2019 would be the minimum. Mn1548 (talk) 14:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK but look at this the other way round. How much information is there in 2019 Challenge Cup Final that doesn't already exist in 2019 Challenge Cup? From the look of it not much, in fact three short paragraphs of uncited text. Much better, imo would be to merge that content into 2019 Challenge Cup unless the intention is to provide an article in the detail of e.g. 2009 Challenge Cup Final. WP:SIZESPLIT suggests that for articles that our Challenge Cup articles approximate in size splitting content out is only really necessary if "the specific material within one section becomes too large" (WP:WHENSPLIT) which doesn't look to be the case with the 2007, 2008 and 2019 final articles. The 2009 final was appropriate to split off on the basis of WHENSPLIT but that is looking like the exception rather than the norm. If you're prepared to do a 2009 on any of the others than I certainly wouldn't object but to split, actually little more than copy, content from an existing article runs in the face of WP:SPLITTING and the objective of providing a good reading experience to readers.
Strangely enough this is the second discussion on a similar topic today. I am also querying separate articles for the pool games for the 2021 RLWC on the same basis. What are they going to add that couldn't be included in the overarching 2021 RLWC article. Nthep (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: OK I see your point. My original approach to this was to create a basis overview and expanded later after connecting 2009 to 2019. But from this a one at a time approach is probably best. Creating one at a higher standard than bringing them all up gradually. Mn1548 (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Create a basis by all means but a) make sure you comply with WP:COPYWITHIN if you copy existing content and b) don't delete that content from the parent article until such time as it is worth summarising. So if an expansion of 2018 Challenge Cup Final starts with attributed copy from 2018 Challenge Cup ok but leave the copied content in 2018 Challenge Cup until such time as the Final article is much more expanded and then reduce the content in 2018 Challenge Cup - if necessary. It might be that the existing content is the reasonable summary of what's to be found in 2018 Final if the latter matches the 2009 Final article. There is a lack of good articles on rugby league and too many stubs/start class stuff which in many case is little more than a collection of stats about that player or season/competition. I've got one rugby league article to GA status and that took several weeks to do including all the researching. I started that in my sandbox and then merged it into the existing article when I felt there was enough to go on for it not to look half-finished. Pick an existing GA e.g. 2011 FA Cup Final and use that as a template to work from. It might be worth starting with 2009 Challenge Cup Final see if you can get that to GA status then you know the challenge for the other articles. Nthep (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep:OK Thanks for the help. Mn1548 (talk) 15:13, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Good Friday Derby[edit]

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County Cups[edit]

If you want to merge the articles then there probably needs to be a merge discussion first. These three articles have a chequered history and there looks to have been an undiscussed (afaik) and partial merger in 2019. Having a discussion should settle it once and for all. If they are merged then it needs to be done correctly to retain attribution and not just copying and pasting. Nthep (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thatto Heath/St Helens women[edit]

Thatto Heath's history is separate from Saints as the women's team has continued after the formation of the Saints womens team. I know it was a wholesale move/co-operative approach but you can't credit THC achievements prior to 2018 to St Helens. Nthep (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nthep: The current Thatto Heath women's side is essentially the reserve / feeder team of St Helens women (See RFL statement on the team's acquisition). Therefore anything achieved by Thatto Heath pre St Helens takeover can be accredited to them as they are the same team. Mn1548 (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Debatable - that might have been the intention in 2018 but is that what has happened since? I doubt it. This isn't a simple renaming like Bradford Thunderbirds becoming Bradford Bulls where there is no dispute about the achievements carrying over, but similar to the Chorley Lynx situation, they weren't the inheritors of Blackpool Borough's heritage. Nthep (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nthep: From the way I read the RFL article it seems clear that St Helens Women are the continuation of Thatto Heath. The current Thatto Heath, can't claim the heritage, as it's explicitly stated that they are the reserve team. It's therefore logical to state that St Helens does inherited the heritage of the original Thatto Heath as there is no mention of Thatto Heath exiting the league and later reforming like what happened Blackpool Borough. Also please elaborate on the phrase "is that what has happened since". Mn1548 (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]