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[edit]Hello Uamaol. You re-installed an obvious hoax and stupid joke on the Danish pastry page. Was it a mistake perhaps?
The page is currently under sporadic attack. Please do not escalate the problems there.
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February 2015
[edit]Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Girlicious. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
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- For 'future reference' after this gets archived (and I mentioned this to Uamaol on IRC) this was a somewhat 'pro-forma' warning of both parties... the edit war in question was over repeated section blanking by an IP, who continued the blanking after logging in to a sleeper account and was temp blocked after an AN3 report. While Uamaol 'technically' violated 3RR, I don't think (he?) was really 'at fault' for doing so, and this should be interpreted more as a 'new editor indiscretion' due to a lack of familiarity with how to handle the matter than an indication of 'contentious behavior'. Reventtalk 13:03, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Britain or Great Britain is the largest island in the British Isles. The UK or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country. The edit you self-reverted was actually correct, the IP editor is wrong. Regards, WCMemail 19:09, 16 February 2015 (UTC) )
Welcoming note - Reply
[edit]Hi there UAMAOL, (formerly known as) ALWAYSLEARNING here,
I had an account (name above), but decided to have it vanished after a serious run-in with a troll (more details here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:188.81.115.107, quite "charming" the person, then taunted me even more when I went to the pages of my wikifriends to notify them of my departure by writing there "Bye AL"), with the intention of leaving forever. Guess I cannot, I'm "hooked"... I have been here for almost nine years by the way.
For the moment, don't see the purpose of creating a new account. Plus, this IP is static, so I'm easily caught for good or bad.
Best wishes for you too, happy editing --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- I completely understand where you are coming from, all a matter of conversing with the other party if I feel I'm being unfairly reverted. Happy week! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks, I feel humbled (darn, I can't return the favour without an account, will I get another one after all?)... Saúde ("cheers" in Portuguese)! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- He knows "a thing or two" about kicking a ball, hopefully we'll see some displays of that today ;) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
WikiProject Abandoned Articles
[edit]I am no longer involved in Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Articles only on Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories and Wikiquote. Miszatomic (talk) 23:21, 24 Feruary 2015 (UTC)
Editing conventions
[edit]Please read WP:BOLD. It's up to you to justify your edit, particularly your claim that Newfoundland is a primary division of Irish, or indeed that it's a single dialect at all. — kwami (talk) 23:09, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
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In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection.
- Your edit is still unsupported. Unless you have evidence, I will continue to revert you. And don't be an ass by posting BS on my talk page. — kwami (talk) 21:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Second warning
[edit]People have been thanking me for reverting your edits. Even if you have evidence to support them, per BOLD you should take them to the talk page. Your edits, up to you to prove them. So far all you've done is to deny yourself. — kwami (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Note that reverting (and blocking) an editor who evades their block via open proxies does not constitute edit warring. Materialscientist (talk) 09:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- You misunderstand, this is a banned user, thus see above. Materialscientist (talk) 10:13, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Deleting incorrect information and explaining why the information is incorrect does not in any way violate the rules on assuming good faith.
However reverting that correction simply because it was made by an IP user does violate it. Making threats to that user is hardly assuming good faith either.
Sort yourself out or I will have to take this further. 86.170.4.253 (talk) 22:14, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
- There's a problem when you threaten that someone 'will not be tolerated' when all they have done is made good faith edits and explained why the edits were made and why the original information was wrong. There's also a problem when you revert those edits purely because they are from an IP user (you admit doing this), which is in clear violation of Assume good faith. Then after reading what the edits made were and realising they were valid you (re)incorporated some of them back in to the article but missed part off. You are not the gatekeeper to Wikipedia, it is not up to you to maintain a tight grip on your 'pet' articles and revert first and ask questions later. You like to throw around threats against people who aren't violating policy (including nonsense about sock puppetry, do you not know what an IP address is?) but feel threatened yourself when your believe your frequent and blatant violations of policy will come to the attention of other, perhaps more senior users? The fact that you seem to believe that other people following Wikipedia policy is a direct threat to you but that it's acceptable for you to threaten other people who haven't violated policy seems the clearest indicator of all that you know you are in the wrong. The messages from other users on this page only further confirm that you don't believe Wikipedia policy applies to you and and also you think you own personal and made up rules apply to everyone else. 86.170.4.253 (talk) 12:51, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
- (TPS, per request) Maybe just a case of a terrible misunderstanding here people, quite sure. Yes Uamaol, the IP user may use a ton of IPs and not be socking at all (a dynamic IP versus a standard - like mine - one). But maybe you thought he was and thus related his actions to vandalism? I think all can be sorted out through peaceful dialogue, no need to take anything "further" for the time being.
Happy 2016 to both (and please, fellow IP, before anything else is blown out of proportion, I only dropped my two cents because Uamaol asked me to on my talkpage), from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]I could use some help on tone neutrality for the Cyber Defense Labs Draft Entry. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cyber_Defense_Labs> I'm tearing my hair out it read like every other entry for companies in this category, and I have about 25 more companies in this space to profile, for the cyber security project, it is taking weeks to get this one through. Please help DrSchlagger 2f6o5oahqu11:50, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- @DrSchlagger:25 more companies? How come? Uamaol (talk) 23:45, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- There is a wiki project on cyber security and cyber security companies. It is very sparse. Wikipedia has article on every starlet who has ever bared her chest on tv or cinema, every Indy filmmaker who does a coffee house release or some obscure film about his/her/its feeling about society. But there is a war going on that the western world is losing, it is fought by small companies and it departments against state sponsored actors. I know something about this fight I have seen the Iranians, Chinese Russian and other take over our critical infrastructure. I have called the FBI, CERT and others in the government and heard their apologies and excuses and watched as they did nothing. Then you call a small company and they drop what they are doing, rush over whether its the middle of the night or on a weekend, and they take care of the problem. People wonder why I'm passionate about this subject ? It's not because I work for one of these companies, its because I've seen them respond when the safety of drinking water or gas pipelines is at stake. I plan to do a series of interconnecting articles on the entire ecosystem of cyber security. If I can get past the deletionists who now seem to control all submissions. Its easy to run edit number up by simply denying everything reflexively. I'm asking for help getting something published. I have made every single change everyone has suggested. I see lots of less notable things published, there are thousands of stubs and article with no sources whatsoever, but in the AFC que people act like publication is some kind of special event. Cyber security and critical infrastructure are only matters of life and death for individuals and our civilization, it would be nice to see them covered with the same thoroughness as the pop-star of the week on some self congratulatory awards show. DrSchlagger (talk) 11:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- @DrSchlagger:Most articles which you see with very little or no references, are so because when they were created, the encyclopædia was in its infancy, and so far, those articles have not yet reached the attention of editors either with an interest in the topic, or one of the many groups that work solely on expanding articles. You're quarrel is clearly with the draft review process, something I personally have not ever gone through. Notability in print and click with notable, independent sources as well as material not written like a promotion is what would be acceptable for an article. I can see your viewpoint that such services should receive coverage, but small companies, especially non-notable ones, do not meet the scope of WP. On the subject matter, I know many individuals who work within cyber security who would agree that as an industry, it isn't very well established or widely known about. Even the larger firms are pretty much unknown outside the hacker community, let alone the world as a whole. Whilst it may be useful to let people know who exists and has done what, it can be concluded that as said article will likely get very few hits and it could be assumed that its creation was for promotion only (seeWP:PROMOTION); Therefore it will likely receive an AfD tag (see WP:AFD). If you want to expand the area of cyber security, I suggest focusing upon the larger companies and of the technologies and nomenclature, first. There are many areas, particularly within the history and jargon of the subject which are lacking attention, as well as with extension to numerous other computer science topics. Uamaol (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- By the current "broken" notability guidelines there are no cyber security companies big enough to be notable, General Dynamics Mission Systems and GE Energy systems are apparently not significant enough to be "notable" and they do billions in business a year and push technology forward. sot the guardians of notability are going to turn an encyclopedia into a pop culture wasteland because that is what gets coverage in the main stream press. I'm starting to remember what I quit spending my time editing here 8 years ago and why most of the founders have moved on. but after I spend my 90 days in purgatory I will be eligible to be on the AFC project and I can get this back to the way it should be. DrSchlagger (talk) 23:49, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- @DrSchlagger:You are missing the many scientific, geographical and historical articles which exist on WP. The number of articles which people make for living persons and companies which get rejected is a bit ridiculous. If the foundation allowed anything to be accepted, then WP would be a much worse off place. Plus, mentions in the press may denote notability, but it doesn't mean that is written is correct. The press often gets alot of things wrong, especially facts. If there are larger companies which are not covered, but that you believe would be of notability, go ahead and create articles for them. A company like the above, which people even in the industry have never heard of, and probably isn't very well known outside the USA probably has very little note for mention. On notability: "the topic must have been covered in mainstream media or major academic journal sources that are independent of the article's subject. Further, WP intends to convey only knowledge that is already established and recognized." Cyber Security Labs reads like a promotion for the company. Most of the article, especially "Filling the Personnel Gap" & "CDL In the Cyber Community" looks like something you'd find on its website, and would therefore be deemed as uncyclopædic. The style of writing makes it sound more like an advertisement, which WP is not for. ND: can you please not remove the indentation marks, it makes it very difficult to read. Uamaol (talk) 16:15, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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You might want to look at the edit content before thinking about 3RR warnings. That was a clear case of reverting vandalism while waiting for an admin to act on the AIV report. Meters (talk) 00:08, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- You should also be a bit more careful about what you say in your warnings. It's not correct to say that someone will be banned if they continue edit warring [1]. They may be blocked, but you don't know that for sure since you are not an admin, and they certainly won't be banned. Banning takes a community consensus. Meters (talk) 00:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Stay off my talk page. You clearly don't know enough to be leaving 3RR warnings, and suggesting that I could be banned for this is ludicrous. You made an egregious mistake, and now you are making it worse. Meters (talk) 00:22, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Knock it off
[edit]Stop reverting Meters on his own page or i will block you from editing. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:58, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi there UAMAOL, feeling is mutual,
i created another account (Be Quiet AL) after getting tired of editing logged off, then god fed up again and "received" this new IP after an overhaul to my computer (please see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:85.242.133.151). Now, as you can see from the banner on the top of that page, i am going on another long hiatus (this time probably for good, ten years and eight days are a pretty good run overall), working in real life for a change :)
Attentively, from Portugal --85.242.133.151 (talk) 21:34, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Matter of fact, i never managed to stay away for very long like intended :) --85.242.133.151 (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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